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Re: JWST Solid State Recorder

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How does this storage hold up over time? I'm guessing that could be one of the limiting hardware elements. There must be some redundancy in that right?

From the previously-posted IEEE article:

68-GB solid-state drive [...] by the end of JWST’s 10-year mission life, they expect to be down to about 60 GB because of deep-space radiation and wear and tear.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32067945

https://spectrum.ieee.org/james-webb-telescope-communication...

Re: JWST Solid State Recorder

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One of the interesting things about this is all the tooling created around the JWST. Like there is even a downloadable app that you use to plan & book time. Plus all the documentation, etc.

Some of the software are made available here:

https://github.com/spacetelescope

The Physical Optics Propagation in PYthon (Poppy) has some neat pictures: https://poppy-optics.readthedocs.io/en/latest/

Re: JWST Solid State Recorder

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know people who live within 30 minutes of me who get less than that - and I live in a college town.

They didn't have a 70m sized parabolic dish, though.

They don't, that is true.

It's just highly impressive to me what we're able to accomplish when we actually focus effort on a task - including getting high-ish bandwidth back and forth between something in space.

Re: JWST Solid State Recorder

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I am sure there are better presentations out there, but this conference proceedings has some great pictures of the control systems in JWST [1] I was also able to find a high resolution picture of the spacewire interface card with its glorious space grade asic packages [2] Sadly the SSR is not shown, I assume that it is basically a gigantic sheet of sram and a fpga. [1] https://www.researchgate.net/publication/2339621…

> The JWST ICDH team delivered the SpaceWire technology – which is packaged in a digital, low power (1.5W), high speed (66Mbps) Field-Programmable Gate Array (FPGA) computer chip

The concepts of "low power" and "high speed" has changed a lot since JWST was designed.

Re: JWST Solid State Recorder

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One of the interesting things about this is all the tooling created around the JWST. Like there is even a downloadable app that you use to plan & book time. Plus all the documentation, etc.

This would be really cool to plan out a look at a specific galaxy or something to personally study if its not already on another queue

Re: JWST Solid State Recorder

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I am sure there are better presentations out there, but this conference proceedings has some great pictures of the control systems in JWST [1] I was also able to find a high resolution picture of the spacewire interface card with its glorious space grade asic packages [2] Sadly the SSR is not shown, I assume that it is basically a gigantic sheet of sram and a fpga. [1] https://www.researchgate.net/publication/2339621…

> The JWST ICDH team delivered the SpaceWire technology – which is packaged in a digital, low power (1.5W), high speed (66Mbps) Field-Programmable Gate Array (FPGA) computer chip The concepts of "low power" and "high speed" has changed a lot since JWST was designed.

I think you're forgetting to factor in the distance.

Say, a low-power, high-speed interface which is USB 3.2 only works via good copper cables and at distances of a few meters.

Re: JWST Solid State Recorder

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I am sure there are better presentations out there, but this conference proceedings has some great pictures of the control systems in JWST [1] I was also able to find a high resolution picture of the spacewire interface card with its glorious space grade asic packages [2] Sadly the SSR is not shown, I assume that it is basically a gigantic sheet of sram and a fpga. [1] https://www.researchgate.net/publication/2339621…

> The JWST ICDH team delivered the SpaceWire technology – which is packaged in a digital, low power (1.5W), high speed (66Mbps) Field-Programmable Gate Array (FPGA) computer chip The concepts of "low power" and "high speed" has changed a lot since JWST was designed.

Indeed.Given that the design process started almost 25 years ago, I'd be more surprised if it had changed less than it has.

Re: JWST Solid State Recorder

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One of the interesting things about this is all the tooling created around the JWST. Like there is even a downloadable app that you use to plan & book time. Plus all the documentation, etc.

> Like there is even a downloadable app that you use to plan & book time

If you mean the APT (Astronomer's Proposal Tool) this tool was originally developed for Hubble Space Telescope proposals, and has been in use since at least least 2008[0]. A year or two ago, I found that parts of it are written in Common Lisp[1].

[0] https://www.stsci.edu/scientific-community/software/astronom...

[1] https://apst.stsci.edu/apt/documents/documentation/apt-proje...

Re: JWST Solid State Recorder

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One of the interesting things about this is all the tooling created around the JWST. Like there is even a downloadable app that you use to plan & book time. Plus all the documentation, etc.

> Like there is even a downloadable app that you use to plan & book time If you mean the APT (Astronomer's Proposal Tool) this tool was originally developed for Hubble Space Telescope proposals, and has been in use since at least least 2008[0]. A year or two ago, I found that parts of it are written in Common Lisp[1]. [0] https://www.stsci.edu/scientific-community/software/astronom... [1] https://apst.stsci.edu/apt/d…

Seems likely. Decades ago I had a discussion with someone about working at STSI, and the draw for me was that I would be working in CL.
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