Project Naptha • Hacker News Board

Re: Project Naptha

#11

Post by lmm » Mon, Jul 11, 2022, 5:00 AM UTC

conorcleary wrote: post #2

Submitters need to get back to more descriptive titles on HN. If this post is the first and only exposure to this project for a user, "Project Naptha" alone doesn't give me confidence to roll the dice and click on an unknown link unless there are existing comments I can investigate. Thus, chicken and egg, scroll by.

They probably put a descriptive title and then had a mod edit it to use the non-descriptive page title instead, as per HN's usual policy and practice.

Re: Project Naptha

#12

Post by moneywoes » Mon, Jul 11, 2022, 5:23 AM UTC

What's the catch?

Re: Project Naptha

#13

Post by modeless » Mon, Jul 11, 2022, 5:32 AM UTC

keyle wrote: post #4

Interesting but I thought my mac already does this? Maybe just M1 and Monterey. I was trying to debug some image the other day, upon inspection I got confused by the shadow dom doing weird stuff, but only in safari; to then realise that it was macOS converting the text in the image to text in shadow dom! ... Good/bad experience report I suppose. ref. https://support.apple.com/en-au/guide/preview/prvw625a5b2c/m...

Android does this too, though you have to go into the app switcher for it to work. Super useful.

Re: Project Naptha

#14

Post by shubhamjain » Mon, Jul 11, 2022, 5:32 AM UTC

This makes me feel old. I saw it for the first time in 2014 on HN, just when it was announced. I felt kind of envious of Kevin Kwok, author of this project. I had just graduated and he was still an undergrad. He had already shipped so many complex projects, including a full-fledged Flash Animator[1] for the web.

It's pretty surprising to see that his site hasn't been updated since 2015 and not many projects have been shipped since then.

[1]: https://antimatter15.com/project/ajax-animator/

Re: Project Naptha

#15

Post by me_again » Mon, Jul 11, 2022, 5:34 AM UTC

What I would really like is a little bit like this but not quite the same: full text search over everything I have ever seen on the computer. It would read and index the emails, web pages, word docs, etc as I open them, then later when I think "I know I saw a doc about cache oblivious algorithms", I can search for it without being distracted by 100K documents I haven't seen. Or I can find that email I read, without finding the same phrase in a bunch of junk mail I never opened.

Does anything remotely similar exist?

Re: Project Naptha

#16

Post by metadat » Mon, Jul 11, 2022, 5:35 AM UTC

Does Naptha still work? I recently reviewed all installed chrome extensions and it seemed broken, so I removed it.

Re: Project Naptha

#17

Post by kbouck » Mon, Jul 11, 2022, 5:36 AM UTC

brian_herman wrote: post #10

keyle wrote: post #4

Interesting but I thought my mac already does this? Maybe just M1 and Monterey. I was trying to debug some image the other day, upon inspection I got confused by the shadow dom doing weird stuff, but only in safari; to then realise that it was macOS converting the text in the image to text in shadow dom! ... Good/bad experience report I suppose. ref. https://support.apple.com/en-au/guide/preview/prvw625a5b2c/m...

Yes I think you can do it in preview too.

... and on iphone/ipad

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212630

Re: Project Naptha

#18

Post by em-bee » Mon, Jul 11, 2022, 5:37 AM UTC

lmm wrote: post #11

conorcleary wrote: post #2

Submitters need to get back to more descriptive titles on HN. If this post is the first and only exposure to this project for a user, "Project Naptha" alone doesn't give me confidence to roll the dice and click on an unknown link unless there are existing comments I can investigate. Thus, chicken and egg, scroll by.

They probably put a descriptive title and then had a mod edit it to use the non-descriptive page title instead, as per HN's usual policy and practice.

i don't think that happened. in my understanding that rule applies to article titles, not to site titles.

in my opinion, when posting a site, then a description, ideally taken from the site, should be included.

this is kind of a variation of a "show HN", like "look what i found"

Re: Project Naptha

#19

Post by jordemort » Mon, Jul 11, 2022, 5:38 AM UTC

This needs a year annotation - I almost emailed to express interest in a Firefox version until I noticed the references to Chrome 36 and Google+

Re: Project Naptha

#20

Post by crorella » Mon, Jul 11, 2022, 5:45 AM UTC

jordemort wrote: post #19

This needs a year annotation - I almost emailed to express interest in a Firefox version until I noticed the references to Chrome 36 and Google+

hehe, I was thinking the same, then I read your comment.

I wish they give support to Firefox in the future, getting text (and even modifying it!) is something I need to do often.