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Mob-style killings shock Netherlands into fighting descent into ‘narco state’

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Then most rich european nations would have that precise problem.

Didn’t Sweden have gangs throwing grenades at the police?

We did, but it's mostly shootings now, as far I understand.

The grenade and bomb attacks usually targeted competing criminals, with of course, some additional casualties, and are continuing, but people seem to have gotten accustomed to the news of them.

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Yeah there was so much immigration to Sicily in the 80s...

Immigration from Sicily to the US brought an unprecedented organized crime element to the US. The Mob was conducting hits in prime time hours in the middle of Manhattan until the federal government’s massive RICO prosecutions.

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Didn’t Sweden have gangs throwing grenades at the police?

We did, but it's mostly shootings now, as far I understand. The grenade and bomb attacks usually targeted competing criminals, with of course, some additional casualties, and are continuing, but people seem to have gotten accustomed to the news of them.

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The Netherlands is hard to move to. I had a Dutch friend who married outside of the country ~2005 and it took an initial application plus two appeals to get his wife in (they now live there happily with kids).

I think the relationship between Holland and crime is based upon its central position within western Europe, its dominance of shipping (which provides a huge inter and intracontinental logistics industry in which to hide illicit activities), and unwanted criminal outgrowths of its historically progressive and leading culture of drug acceptance.

Somewhat amusingly, yet probably not causative in any way, in much the same way that Australia is often slammed jokingly as a country founded by criminals, there are aspects of truth to Holland (and Venice) being comprised in the past of social marginalia.

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