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Re: Ask HN: Games which will help increase my appetite for risk?

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Try Starcraft 2. Games are under 20 minutes and you need to fully commit aggressively to win a lot. Constant attack / harassment / probing or risky expansions(or both). As well, you can watch the replay to see all the times attacking sooner would have won it.

+1 for SC2, this game really punishes turtling especially when played online. Brood War is great as well but the dated visuals and difficulty involved in managing large numbers of units makes it a bit less friendly.

Re: Ask HN: Games which will help increase my appetite for risk?

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The Binding of Isaac has a lot of this. It's a Rogue-lite where a single run is a descent through a series of dungeons, each dungeon composed like Zelda 1 as a series of rooms interconnected by doors, and each type of room pulls from its own pool of human-designed layouts when that level is generated. Each moment of gameplay is a risk calculation on every granularity of your run simultaneously: for the run as a whole (e.g. dungeon branch points based on reaching a given point within minutes), for each dungeon level (e.g. different after-boss reward possibility for no damage taken during that level), for the current room (e.g. choosing when to activate charged items), and for any given mob based on how well you've learned their movement and attack patterns. Plays best with a controller, imo, like a twin-stick shooter: https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/2405/The_Binding_of_Is...

Re: Ask HN: Games which will help increase my appetite for risk?

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Poker with real money. Playing poker with fake money is utterly worthless. There needs to be real money behind your decision making but I promise it is eye opening. Learning how to play poker is one of the most important skills you can learn in life. It teaches you so many things about life: how to make decisions based on incomplete information and being okay with unfavorable outcomes; knowing how to control your ris…

I've always paid poker with fake money and it does the trick too. I've had friends cry over losing lots of Zynga poker money. Losing 10 hours worth of gains in one game hurts.

Re: Ask HN: Games which will help increase my appetite for risk?

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XCOM and XCOM2 in Ironman mode (only one autosaved game--all choices are permanent) are excellent choices to learn how to deal with risk. Gameplay is turn-based so you can plan what you want to do calmly, but results are fairly immediate--if you miscalculate a move your soldiers get hurt or die. You have to take risks: you must move your team of soldiers ahead into the darkness to accomplish a mission, but there coul…

Both are vastly different games though. XCOM allows you to completely turtle though EW expansion countered that. XCOM 2 seems to overly punish safe play and reward aggression.

The downside of the XCOM games is you can lose a whole game on a 80% roll, so it might not condition you properly. The game snowballs, so if you get far enough without losing someone, or lose someone too early, you've basically lost Ironman but it doesn't inform you when.

Battle Brothers is of the genre, with similar flaws. Basically the whole "you lose on day 110 because you didn't knife enough mercenaries on day 31".

Xenonauts I think strikes a good balance. You can lose almost everyone and still continue the game. It's more strategic and less tactical, meaning that if you write the correct SOPs and use sufficient explosives, you should win.

XCOM feels a bit like chess sometimes, in that you lose because you didn't examine the map properly or positioned your sniper too far back.

Re: Ask HN: Games which will help increase my appetite for risk?

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post #15

Poker with real money. Playing poker with fake money is utterly worthless. There needs to be real money behind your decision making but I promise it is eye opening. Learning how to play poker is one of the most important skills you can learn in life. It teaches you so many things about life: how to make decisions based on incomplete information and being okay with unfavorable outcomes; knowing how to control your ris…

I've always paid poker with fake money and it does the trick too. I've had friends cry over losing lots of Zynga poker money. Losing 10 hours worth of gains in one game hurts.

Sounds like they didn't learn bankroll management.

Re: Ask HN: Games which will help increase my appetite for risk?

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XCOM and XCOM2 in Ironman mode (only one autosaved game--all choices are permanent) are excellent choices to learn how to deal with risk. Gameplay is turn-based so you can plan what you want to do calmly, but results are fairly immediate--if you miscalculate a move your soldiers get hurt or die. You have to take risks: you must move your team of soldiers ahead into the darkness to accomplish a mission, but there coul…

XCOM more than any other game taught me to weigh much more heavily the consequences of the downside, even when it's unlikely to happen. Be in a position to maximize the probability of success, take the shot, and have a backup ready for when it all goes wrong.

Re: Ask HN: Games which will help increase my appetite for risk?

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Escape from Tarkov

It's Battle Royale esque. All the gear and items you take into a round will be lost if you die. But the only way to acquire more gear is to go into the rounds, loot, kill others for their loot and survive. If you just go into rounds and hide and turtle, you wont find any good gear. You have to be proactive and take risks to loot gear before other players in the round. In EFT, many players have "Gear Fear" where people don't like playing because they can't handle the risk of losing all their gear if they die.

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