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Re: Vim 9.0

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Post by jl6 » Thu, Jun 30, 2022, 9:11 PM UTC

givemeethekeys wrote: post #4

I'm curious: - How deep a rabbit hole do most people go down when setting up their vim / neovim environment? Apart from setting up a preferred color and language specific tab spacing and highlighting, I don't need more, but I've seen some pretty fancy setups. Out of the different plugins, which would you never operate without?

I put some time into learning vanilla vim to a fairly basic level, about 20 years ago. It’s been sufficient ever since. Occasionally I look up rarely used commands, but as far as I’m concerned my configuring days are over.

Re: Vim 9.0

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Post by bayindirh » Thu, Jun 30, 2022, 9:12 PM UTC

threatofrain wrote: post #10

Diederich wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been using vi/vim on a near daily basis for 34 years now and this is the only thing I put in ~/.vimrc: set tabstop=4 set expandtab set shiftwidth=4 " or 2 or whatever set shiftround syntax on EDIT: Just for some fun archeology, I google searched on the 3rd line, 'set shiftwidth=4 " or 2 or whatever' because I very dimly recall copying most of my standard set (minus the syntax on bit) from someone else a long lon…

No line numbers? @_@

It is already present on the lower right by default. Why lose a column?

Re: Vim 9.0

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Post by VTimofeenko » Thu, Jun 30, 2022, 9:12 PM UTC

givemeethekeys wrote: post #4

I'm curious: - How deep a rabbit hole do most people go down when setting up their vim / neovim environment? Apart from setting up a preferred color and language specific tab spacing and highlighting, I don't need more, but I've seen some pretty fancy setups. Out of the different plugins, which would you never operate without?

I've gone down that rabbit hole quite a few times and each time for a much longer period than I am willing to admit. I use neovim for hobby development and as a general text editor.

The plugin that I find myself using all the time is vim-surround with a couple of minor language-specific tweaks.

Re: Vim 9.0

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jun 30, 2022, 9:12 PM UTC

givemeethekeys wrote: post #4

I'm curious: - How deep a rabbit hole do most people go down when setting up their vim / neovim environment? Apart from setting up a preferred color and language specific tab spacing and highlighting, I don't need more, but I've seen some pretty fancy setups. Out of the different plugins, which would you never operate without?

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Re: Vim 9.0

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Post by Diederich » Thu, Jun 30, 2022, 9:12 PM UTC

threatofrain wrote: post #10

Diederich wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been using vi/vim on a near daily basis for 34 years now and this is the only thing I put in ~/.vimrc: set tabstop=4 set expandtab set shiftwidth=4 " or 2 or whatever set shiftround syntax on EDIT: Just for some fun archeology, I google searched on the 3rd line, 'set shiftwidth=4 " or 2 or whatever' because I very dimly recall copying most of my standard set (minus the syntax on bit) from someone else a long lon…

No line numbers? @_@

Nope. Back in the day that would greatly interfere with copy/paste. One way or another, it's so easy to see what line number you're on and/or jump to a specific line.

Re: Vim 9.0

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Post by dbrueck » Thu, Jun 30, 2022, 9:13 PM UTC

givemeethekeys wrote: post #4

I'm curious: - How deep a rabbit hole do most people go down when setting up their vim / neovim environment? Apart from setting up a preferred color and language specific tab spacing and highlighting, I don't need more, but I've seen some pretty fancy setups. Out of the different plugins, which would you never operate without?

No idea if I'm typical or an outlier, but I have a couple of syntax highlighting plugins, NLKNguyen/papercolor-theme, a vim rc file with my favorite keybindings (e.g. faster navigation among splits), and a python file with some helpers for opening terminals in vim and... that's it.

Every once in awhile I think I might do a fancier setup but then I lose interest. Ditto for checking out neovim. I'm sure I'd get some gains, but I guess I've sort of settled into a decent sweet spot that I haven't left for almost a decade, haha (been using vim for ~25 years total).

Re: Vim 9.0

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Post by agotterer » Thu, Jun 30, 2022, 9:13 PM UTC

the_duke wrote: post #3

I'm curious how many users are now using vim versus neovim. I switched a few years ago,and ever since Lua plugin support the Neovim ecosystem is thriving.

I switched to NeoVim and then back to Vim a few years ago. I ran into some bug that prevented my setup from working correctly that forced me back. Vim has been working fine for me and I haven’t found the motivation or a reason to try and switch again.

Re: Vim 9.0

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Post by jcranmer » Thu, Jun 30, 2022, 9:14 PM UTC

Diederich wrote: post #6

givemeethekeys wrote: post #4

I'm curious: - How deep a rabbit hole do most people go down when setting up their vim / neovim environment? Apart from setting up a preferred color and language specific tab spacing and highlighting, I don't need more, but I've seen some pretty fancy setups. Out of the different plugins, which would you never operate without?

I've been using vi/vim on a near daily basis for 34 years now and this is the only thing I put in ~/.vimrc: set tabstop=4 set expandtab set shiftwidth=4 " or 2 or whatever set shiftround syntax on EDIT: Just for some fun archeology, I google searched on the 3rd line, 'set shiftwidth=4 " or 2 or whatever' because I very dimly recall copying most of my standard set (minus the syntax on bit) from someone else a long lon…

TIL about set shiftround... that would definitely help with > commands...

Re: Vim 9.0

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Post by aidos » Thu, Jun 30, 2022, 9:14 PM UTC

givemeethekeys wrote: post #4

I'm curious: - How deep a rabbit hole do most people go down when setting up their vim / neovim environment? Apart from setting up a preferred color and language specific tab spacing and highlighting, I don't need more, but I've seen some pretty fancy setups. Out of the different plugins, which would you never operate without?

It’s definitely a deep rabbit hole. There’s a lot to figure out - even as an old vim user moving to a more modern neovim setup about a year ago.

One of the issues I found was that every plugin seemed to reference other plugins and you need to figure out how to make them play nicely together yourself. Most of the best info is just buried in GitHub issues and neovim was such a moving target that everything needed more digging into to get working correctly.

For me now essentials include; Telescope, Trouble, Cmp and a good LSP setup.

Re: Vim 9.0

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Post by capableweb » Thu, Jun 30, 2022, 9:16 PM UTC

As Vim9 comes alive, and Neovim community focuses on Lua plugins instead, it seems this release is finally the update that will put a hard branch on the two communities. Up until now, most plugins (except Lua-only ones of course) have worked in both editors, but it doesn't seem like Vim9 will be supported in Neovim, so I guess what people go with now, will decide what you might stick with in the future (unless you're eager to switch development environments).