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Amazon bows to UAE pressure to restrict LGBT search results

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Re: Amazon bows to UAE pressure to restrict LGBT search results

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I'm a bit confused by the fact that they're talking about UAE and then they suddenly switch to talking about non-Amazon related events in Saudi Arabia.

I didn’t notice that until you pointed it out. Either the author erroneously thinks the UAE subsumes SA or they needed to pad their word count and didn’t count on anyone noticing.

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Is there any argument here in Amazon’s defense? Or is my initial disgust at Amazon truly the appropriate response. I cannot fathom being the person at Amazon who makes that call. Do they sleep well at night? Do they feel good about themselves?

I cannot fathom being the person at Amazon who makes that call. Do they sleep well at night? Do they feel good about themselves?

Shame is pride's cloak. Shaming people who aren't proud, isn't going to provoke revelation of their truth and meaning.

Most of the anti-gay arguments are derived from a 'natural law' and Platonic interpretations of sexual function.

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Is there any argument here in Amazon’s defense? Or is my initial disgust at Amazon truly the appropriate response. I cannot fathom being the person at Amazon who makes that call. Do they sleep well at night? Do they feel good about themselves?

> I cannot fathom being the person at Amazon who makes that call. Do they sleep well at night? Do they feel good about themselves?

People in positions being able to make country wide or above decisions at entities like Amazon generally do not care about human life at all. They first and foremost care about being financially successful (and maybe having power) themselves, secondly about their company being financially successful and thirdly their companies public image.

Do you really think there is someone ready to say: "Dear Mr. Bezos, we are no longer allowed to sell in UAE because we didn't bow to their anti LGBTQ laws. Too bad." ?

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Is there any argument here in Amazon’s defense? Or is my initial disgust at Amazon truly the appropriate response. I cannot fathom being the person at Amazon who makes that call. Do they sleep well at night? Do they feel good about themselves?

They are probably sleeping in a 14 room mansion in an ultra king size bed being rubbed to sleep by three prostitutes. So yeah, they’re probably sleeping well. But you expect anything different from a corporation? Their only purpose is to make profit. It’s just basic economics. They don’t care about politics or LGBTQ, they care about money. The only reason they ever seem to care about LGBTQ is because they saw the gro…

sure, it's a corporation but in the end a bunch of people have to make the call and implement these filters.

My guess is the blame gets dilluted and people are really good at rationalising their work by hiding behind the corporation image, or "someone else will do it anyway", or "yeah, but look at what happens in X", etc

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Is there any argument here in Amazon’s defense? Or is my initial disgust at Amazon truly the appropriate response. I cannot fathom being the person at Amazon who makes that call. Do they sleep well at night? Do they feel good about themselves?

Firms comply with the laws of the countries in which they operate. The Gulf states have evil and primitive laws on this and many other issues but everyone who operates there complies with them.

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Speaking as someone who worked in the reputation management sector, this kind of behaviour has been around since the early 20th century.

I think people often mistaken "region based marketing" for genuine political statements. If promoting pride yields a net positive increase in reputation and revenue in Western countries, one would be foolish not to jump on that bandwagon.

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Is there any argument here in Amazon’s defense? Or is my initial disgust at Amazon truly the appropriate response. I cannot fathom being the person at Amazon who makes that call. Do they sleep well at night? Do they feel good about themselves?

Do they sleep well at night? Why not...

Do they feel good about themselves?...They don't have to do that...I bet most people don't even feel "good" about their corporate jobs.

Basically, Amazon had two options; Tell the UAE to pound sand and risk being kicked out of the country or cave in to their demands. Should we really expect another response from a soul-less, union-busting corporate overlord company like Amazon?

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As does every other corporation that puts up a rainbow lag the second its pride month. Blackrock, McDonnel Douglas and Exxon are really trying to be on the right side of history here, folks! Ask Disney if they show the same movies in China. Its all just kowtowing to the power of the Global American Empire legislated by misguided civil rights legislation, enforced by the politcommissars in HR. Every culture has a righ…

It is all just virtue singling. And in different places virtues are different... Cynical but truthful take. After all on scale these firms operate having someone update their logo with different colour scheme is probably cheaper than being attacked for not doing it.

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Is there any argument here in Amazon’s defense? Or is my initial disgust at Amazon truly the appropriate response. I cannot fathom being the person at Amazon who makes that call. Do they sleep well at night? Do they feel good about themselves?

> I cannot fathom being the person at Amazon who makes that call. Do they sleep well at night? Do they feel good about themselves? People in positions being able to make country wide or above decisions at entities like Amazon generally do not care about human life at all. They first and foremost care about being financially successful (and maybe having power) themselves, secondly about their company being financially…

Yes, that is what I would hope would happen.
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