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Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable

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Re: Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable

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Well its not a cheap product, I suspect its just a massive knot of complexity and thus massively expensive to maintain and manage.

Massive pile of garbage is more like it. As a developer, the only thing slowing me down from getting work done was waiting on JIRA and being told to use the crap they call Confluence to document things.

What do you recommend instead?

JIRA & Confluence seem to be the best of a bad bunch. I do miss the self-hosted option.

Re: Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable

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That also ate a lot of small healthy business pie in the market. I have mixed feeling about this. Do you think a company's R&D worth sucking a chuck of opportunity for small companies? I don't believe the niche vs. mass is less overlap. Imagine the market where there were no excel/spreadsheet/word. The customers of the market is spoiled by cheap/free/network-effect-koolaid plans just for sake of growth.

Re: Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable

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> While it is still used by many tech businesses (including the author’s), it has no real network effect — that is, users can switch to a competitor product like Asana, Basecamp or Monday.com with minimal cost (other than the initial hassle of switching to a new system). Lol. At some companies, Jira workflows literally run the whole company. At my prev job, prod deployments were tightly linked to Jira.

> other than the initial hassle of switching to a new system Is like saying: "people can move overseas with minimal cost (other than shitloads of migration bureaucracy, frequent flying to meet family, put their entire furniture on top of a cargo ship)

And, since this a thread about JIRA, a lot of bureaucracy

Re: Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable

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Massive pile of garbage is more like it. As a developer, the only thing slowing me down from getting work done was waiting on JIRA and being told to use the crap they call Confluence to document things.

What do you recommend instead? JIRA & Confluence seem to be the best of a bad bunch. I do miss the self-hosted option.

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Re: Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Massive pile of garbage is more like it. As a developer, the only thing slowing me down from getting work done was waiting on JIRA and being told to use the crap they call Confluence to document things.

What do you recommend instead? JIRA & Confluence seem to be the best of a bad bunch. I do miss the self-hosted option.

Honestly, Azure DevOps is a solid replacement. The integration is really good and the "Boards" software really feels like they're eating their own dog food. Their Wiki software is Markdown stored in a Git repo (unlike Confluence's mess). It's fast, permissions are relatively intuitive and fast, etc.

It's worth a look if you're evaluating.

JetBrains Space is another alternative, but I have no experience with it.

Re: Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable

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> While it is still used by many tech businesses (including the author’s), it has no real network effect — that is, users can switch to a competitor product like Asana, Basecamp or Monday.com with minimal cost (other than the initial hassle of switching to a new system). Lol. At some companies, Jira workflows literally run the whole company. At my prev job, prod deployments were tightly linked to Jira.

Yes - JIRA is almost a textbook example of lock in. Moving a large company's workflow would mean months of disruption.
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