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Alopecia areata after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Re: Alopecia areata after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by littlestymaar »

ellopoppit wrote: post #4
InTheArena wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

tl;dr - the testing process is the same. The EUA process simply allows manufacturers to build out the products while they are testing, as opposed to doing it in serial: https://healthtalk.unchealthcare.org/whats-the-difference-be... In general, COVID vaccines have been far more extensively studied than any other vaccine has ever been. There is a problem - with every single possible authorized medicine - that there ma…

>COVID vaccines have been far more extensively studied than any other vaccine has ever been By what measure?

By pretty much every imaginable measures: number of papers, number of researchers, sample size, size of the control group exposed to the disease …

The only lacking aspect is the long term effects, because by definition we don't have long term hindsight (but no vaccine has it before being commercialized, by definition).

Re: Alopecia areata after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by InTheArena »

ellopoppit wrote: post #4
InTheArena wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

tl;dr - the testing process is the same. The EUA process simply allows manufacturers to build out the products while they are testing, as opposed to doing it in serial: https://healthtalk.unchealthcare.org/whats-the-difference-be... In general, COVID vaccines have been far more extensively studied than any other vaccine has ever been. There is a problem - with every single possible authorized medicine - that there ma…

>COVID vaccines have been far more extensively studied than any other vaccine has ever been By what measure?

By all measures - population size, number of studies, number of meta-studies, number of phase 1/2 studies. Number of doctors, number of skeptics. Number of papers.

Re: Alopecia areata after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by ellopoppit »

InTheArena wrote: post #12
ellopoppit wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>COVID vaccines have been far more extensively studied than any other vaccine has ever been By what measure?

By all measures - population size, number of studies, number of meta-studies, number of phase 1/2 studies. Number of doctors, number of skeptics. Number of papers.

>Population size

By population size, do you mean the number of people in the general public who have taken the various covid vaccines under the FDA EUA?

Re: Alopecia areata after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by ellopoppit »

littlestymaar wrote: post #11
ellopoppit wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>COVID vaccines have been far more extensively studied than any other vaccine has ever been By what measure?

By pretty much every imaginable measures: number of papers, number of researchers, sample size, size of the control group exposed to the disease … The only lacking aspect is the long term effects, because by definition we don't have long term hindsight (but no vaccine has it before being commercialized, by definition).

>The only lacking aspect is the long term effects, because by definition we don't have long term hindsight (but no vaccine has it before being commercialized, by definition).

I'm not sure I understand this sentence... are you claiming no other vaccine had more data on long term effects prior to commercialization than the covid vaccines?

Re: Alopecia areata after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by BizarroLand »

kevinventullo wrote: post #5
matt321 wrote: post #2

If the shortened emergency FDA process for covid vaccines is "safe" then it should be considered safe for other products as well. If its not safe, then it should be no safe for the covid vaccines as well.

Safety is not black and white; everything is a tradeoff. If COVID was say, 100x worse, I think it would be obvious that it would be worth the risks of an expedited process to release a vaccine sooner.

Nearly 2% of unvaccinated people died of covid complications.

If left unchecked, not counting for the fact that getting covid once does not preclude you from getting it again, that would mean roughly 140,000,000 of the people alive as of 2019 would die from covid related complications during their lifetimes.

If it were 100x worse, it would eradicate the human race.

Right now, the death toll is approximately 6.3 million. I think a few million early choking and gagging deaths by suffocation is worth the small risk of having a complication from the vaccine, of which, nearly 2 years in so far the worst complication is an inflamed heart.

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