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Re: Ask HN: How is the remote vs in-person trend looking?

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Post by autarch »

Uptrenda wrote: post #9
_fat_santa wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally I never use easy apply or go through websites, I always talk to a recruiter on LinkedIn. Usually I'll get 1-2 messages per week from recruiters about a position, I'll politely decline but tell them I would like to keep in touch. Whenever I go looking for another gig, all those recruiters are hit up. IMO, having a recruiter helps you cut through a ton of BS like filling out job applications, recruiter takes…

My experience with recruiters has always been negative. Do you mean internal recruiters or external ones?

I was recently looking for a new position and I found internal recruiters were quite useful. My experience with external recruiters was mixed, though at least a couple did get me interviews at places that seemed decent.

Re: Ask HN: How is the remote vs in-person trend looking?

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Post by Uptrenda »

mathverse wrote: post #5

I interviewed with 3 companies all remote positions and have been ghosted by all 3 of them.

Don't take it personally. You should expect a large number of companies to ghost you. It's just part of the process. Keep going and believe in yourself.

Re: Ask HN: How is the remote vs in-person trend looking?

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Post by aynyc »

mathverse wrote: post #10
digitalsushi wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

were you referred by recruiters or did you come in the front door?

Nope i applied through their sites. Did 2-4h long take home assignments and went through 3-4 rounds and then never heard again from them.

name them.

Re: Ask HN: How is the remote vs in-person trend looking?

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Post by jstx1 »

Uptrenda wrote: post #6

There are still good tech jobs but hiring is down compared to its high. Whether its down compared to pre-covid times - can't say. What I will say however is: job search sucks no matter what the economy is doing. If you want to skip as much bs as humanly possible look for companies where its still possible to talk to the founders one on one and only apply if you've basically already done exactly what they need doing.…

> look for companies where its still possible to talk to the founders one on one and only apply if you've basically already done exactly what they need doing

This also means only working at small companies and never changing your problem domain or trying to work on something new. Doesn't sound that great.

Re: Ask HN: How is the remote vs in-person trend looking?

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Post by nimajneb »

I don't know if this answers your question, but my employer (engineering firm) just announced last Friday that starting July 5th being in the office Tue-Thu is mandatory. Then Sept 5th Mon-Fri is mandatory. Pre-covid there were very very few remote positions at my employer, we are going back to that I guess. I've been going in Mon-Fri anyways, so it doesn't really effect me.

Re: Ask HN: How is the remote vs in-person trend looking?

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Post by fleetwoodsnack »

jstx1 wrote: post #14
Uptrenda wrote: post #6

There are still good tech jobs but hiring is down compared to its high. Whether its down compared to pre-covid times - can't say. What I will say however is: job search sucks no matter what the economy is doing. If you want to skip as much bs as humanly possible look for companies where its still possible to talk to the founders one on one and only apply if you've basically already done exactly what they need doing.…

> look for companies where its still possible to talk to the founders one on one and only apply if you've basically already done exactly what they need doing This also means only working at small companies and never changing your problem domain or trying to work on something new. Doesn't sound that great.

Seems like the parent was optimizing for reducing bureaucratic BS or time-between-jobs, as opposed to career growth opportunities. They’re both valid objectives, but you know the whole “judge a fish by it’s ability to climb a tree” thing.

Re: Ask HN: How is the remote vs in-person trend looking?

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Post by ketzo »

This doesn't quite answer your trend, but personal anecdote:

I recently switched jobs, and as part of my job interview process, I was pretty firm about only looking for companies that were working at least part of the week in the office. I just really thrive on in-person work.

Fast forward a few weeks... and I ended up taking a job with a startup that was fully remote. I loved their product, loved the founders, loved the team I had met; I figured I would make it work.

Two months in and I have hardly noticed that I'm not working in person. There's just such a huge difference when you're working at BigCo remotely and working at an eight-person startup. Particularly at my company, people just really give a shit and it shows. I feel genuinely connected to and engaged with my teammates. Makes remote work a lot better.

Re: Ask HN: How is the remote vs in-person trend looking?

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Post by timr »

rebeccaskinner wrote: post #4

My guess is that the current market conditions will accelerate the market toward whatever the new normal will be. Companies that hated having to give into demands for remote work will use this as leverage to get people back into the office. Companies that were going to look at remote work as a way to save costs (either by hiring from cheaper regions, saving on real estate costs, or both) will be pushed into those dec…

> decrease worker efficiency by encouraging repeated Covid exposure leading to both more short term leave due to sick employees and less effective employees in the long run due to long Covid

PSA: this is wild speculation. There's no definition of what "long covid" is, and there's certainly no evidence that it is made worse by getting Covid more than once. If anything, the opposite is true: we know that repeat infections lead to fewer symptoms and milder illness.

Regardless, Covid is an endemic cold virus now, along with the other four circulating coronaviruses. It isn't going away. Everyone is going to get it multiple times in their lives, whether or not they work remote or in person.

Re: Ask HN: How is the remote vs in-person trend looking?

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Post by boppo1 »

_fat_santa wrote: post #3
pram wrote: post #2

I'm in the interview loop with two places atm (one is Google) and they're both remote. Last time I was frantically looking hard in 2019 I couldn't find any remote positions, so it's still a lot easier from my pov. Also I've found that submitting job applications through LinkedIn's 'easy apply' thing is rarely successful. It doesn't seem like recruiters often check that. I've had the most replies from going through th…

Personally I never use easy apply or go through websites, I always talk to a recruiter on LinkedIn. Usually I'll get 1-2 messages per week from recruiters about a position, I'll politely decline but tell them I would like to keep in touch. Whenever I go looking for another gig, all those recruiters are hit up. IMO, having a recruiter helps you cut through a ton of BS like filling out job applications, recruiter takes…

How do you go looking for recruiters?
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