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The other problem with the argument is that, on the other side, many vegans believe that killing animals for food is wrong.
In religions that believe in hell based on life choices, the ultimate smart move would be all fetuses aborted. The chance of heaven is 100% that way. What chance of heaven do we get if we are actually born? Maybe 10% at most? Billions are being condemned to eternal damnation if the fetuses are allowed to be born and live a life for at most about 100 years. That seems incredibly selfish and silly and short-sighted. We…
If you want to persuade people, then you need to meet them where they are and adopt their way of thinking. Accept their premises and worldview, and show that it leads to bizarre, false consequnces.
But he's wrong. We're the majority. They managed to change the law, even though they are a minority. This cannot stand.
If they want to change the law, then THEY need to persuade US. That's supposed to be how it works.
There is no easy answer there. I will say this - in no other situation is it even tenable to force a person to use a part of their body to keep another person alive. Even corpses have autonomy - if the person decides when they're alive that they don't want to be an organ donor, we cannot in good conscience then take their organs anyway. Should pregnant women have less autonomy than a dead body?
If you don't know, or can't prove, when personhood establishes, then there's at least some chance you are, in fact, killing a person. In my estimation the abortionist doesn't care about the possibility of killing a person because there are no consequences for it.
It is murder, simple as that. The moment a sperm fertilizes an egg, a new unique genetic material is formed, which is damn near the closest thing we have to an objective standard of when a new human life is started. Embryo is a stage of development in a human being (and many other life forms on this planet). Maybe it's not synonymous with baby, I could grant that, and allow for baby to represent a different and later…
If you don't know, or can't prove, when personhood establishes, then there's at least some chance you are, in fact, killing a person. In my estimation the abortionist doesn't care about the possibility of killing a person because there are no consequences for it.
How many so-called "abortionists" did you interview? How did you gather your data on what they "care" about?
Did you interview condom manufacturers, too?
In religions that believe in hell based on life choices, the ultimate smart move would be all fetuses aborted. The chance of heaven is 100% that way. What chance of heaven do we get if we are actually born? Maybe 10% at most? Billions are being condemned to eternal damnation if the fetuses are allowed to be born and live a life for at most about 100 years. That seems incredibly selfish and silly and short-sighted. We…