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Vitali Klitschko fake tricks Berlin mayor in video call

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Re: Vitali Klitschko fake tricks Berlin mayor in video call

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Post by tauchunfall »

mikkohypponen wrote: post #8
trompetenaccoun wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No because they also called Vienna and Madrid ;) Apparently the Vienna Mayor didn't notice a thing and even sent out a tweet afterwards. The other two at least got suspicious when the supposed Klitschko asked them weird questions.

But was it a deepfake or not? This is unprecedented if it was.

Klitschko said it was not him who had the calls with the mayors of Berlin and Vienna.

It's interesting that they ignored that whoever pretended to be Klitschko did not speak in German with them.

But I guess this is how it works, when you already trust the other person, you ignore this stuff and invent plausible explanations.

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Post by aspyct »

nradov wrote: post #7
aspyct wrote: post #3

Private key authentication, anyone?

What is the key tied to, the person, the organization, or the device? Where do you obtain the public key? Which certificate authorities will you trust to verify the identify of public figures? Will any of this work under wartime conditions when people are moving around, using random webcams and mobile devices?

I mean, it's not like governments don't have the financial means to figure something out...

Re: Vitali Klitschko fake tricks Berlin mayor in video call

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Post by nradov »

aspyct wrote: post #12
nradov wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the key tied to, the person, the organization, or the device? Where do you obtain the public key? Which certificate authorities will you trust to verify the identify of public figures? Will any of this work under wartime conditions when people are moving around, using random webcams and mobile devices?

I mean, it's not like governments don't have the financial means to figure something out...

Don't be naive. Governments can't solve hard technical and social problems just by throwing in more money. If that was true we would have working fusion power by now.

And in some parts of Ukraine, there is effectively no longer any government at all.

Re: Vitali Klitschko fake tricks Berlin mayor in video call

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Post by orbital-decay »

nradov wrote: post #7
aspyct wrote: post #3

Private key authentication, anyone?

What is the key tied to, the person, the organization, or the device? Where do you obtain the public key? Which certificate authorities will you trust to verify the identify of public figures? Will any of this work under wartime conditions when people are moving around, using random webcams and mobile devices?

I see no particular reason why existing diplomatic courier services, chain of trust, and verification procedures can't be used for key exchange. What are the failure modes you are sceptical about?

>Will any of this work under wartime conditions when people are moving around, using random webcams and mobile devices?

Just follow the procedure to establish trust cryptographically, then arrange the meeting by any channel you like.

Re: Vitali Klitschko fake tricks Berlin mayor in video call

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Post by bobkazamakis »

orbital-decay wrote: post #14
nradov wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the key tied to, the person, the organization, or the device? Where do you obtain the public key? Which certificate authorities will you trust to verify the identify of public figures? Will any of this work under wartime conditions when people are moving around, using random webcams and mobile devices?

I see no particular reason why existing diplomatic courier services, chain of trust, and verification procedures can't be used for key exchange. What are the failure modes you are sceptical about? >Will any of this work under wartime conditions when people are moving around, using random webcams and mobile devices? Just follow the procedure to establish trust cryptographically, then arrange the meeting by any channel…

>Just follow the procedure to establish trust cryptographically,

ah, you figured it out!

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