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Stop the E-Parasite Act

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Re: Stop the E-Parasite Act

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Do these petitions do any good? That is, is it even worthwhile to sign it? Or is our time better spent elsewhere.

Given how easy it is to sign it, does it matter?

If it fools people into thinking they actually did something when in fact they didn't, then it could be detrimental to the cause.

For instance, my father was under the impression that his will was totally legal and everything was taken care of. His misinformation led him to look no further, and as a result, when he passed, things were messy because the will wasn't valid.

Re: Stop the E-Parasite Act

#13
post #8

While I definitely support the notion of this petition, it's time that people realize that things like these won't do shit, to put it bluntly. To stop this madness, we have to attack and bring down the people who cause this retardation - the content industries. They won't somehow come to their senses and stop pushing for insane laws and regulations. It's a very dangerous illusion that petty petitions will change anyt…

To stop this madness, we have to attack and bring down the people who cause this retardation - the content industries.

The content industries don't cause this. They go to politicians and say "pretty please take away people's freedom to protect our profits". That's the only thing they have the power to do.

Politicians are not helpless babies who have no choice but to give big content what it wants. They are intelligent adults who choose to side with big content.

The people you need to bring down are Biden/Obama, Orrin Hatch, etc.

Re: Stop the E-Parasite Act

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post #8

While I definitely support the notion of this petition, it's time that people realize that things like these won't do shit, to put it bluntly. To stop this madness, we have to attack and bring down the people who cause this retardation - the content industries. They won't somehow come to their senses and stop pushing for insane laws and regulations. It's a very dangerous illusion that petty petitions will change anyt…

To stop this madness, we have to attack and bring down the people who cause this retardation - the content industries. The content industries don't cause this. They go to politicians and say "pretty please take away people's freedom to protect our profits". That's the only thing they have the power to do. Politicians are not helpless babies who have no choice but to give big content what it wants. They are intelligen…

Agreed. It's the same as the "occupy" movement saying that corporations shouldn't influence government. It's true, but it's the politicians who are the problem. Everyone, the content providers included, should be representing their best interests to politicians. The burden is on the politicians to remain uncorrupted and to represent the best interests of their constituents to the fullest degree possible under law.

Re: Stop the E-Parasite Act

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Do these petitions do any good? That is, is it even worthwhile to sign it? Or is our time better spent elsewhere.

The petitions are looked at if they receive enough signatures, right now this one needs a little over 23,000 more signatures by November 30th. I would view it as one more avenue of making your opinion known to elected officials. In addition to informing your congressperson and senator to try to prevent the bill from passing this would be a way to endorse a veto from the executive branch. I believe it does as much goo…

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Re: Stop the E-Parasite Act

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post #8

While I definitely support the notion of this petition, it's time that people realize that things like these won't do shit, to put it bluntly. To stop this madness, we have to attack and bring down the people who cause this retardation - the content industries. They won't somehow come to their senses and stop pushing for insane laws and regulations. It's a very dangerous illusion that petty petitions will change anyt…

The real solution might be to strip government of most of its power rather than try and change it.

Re: Stop the E-Parasite Act

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post #8

While I definitely support the notion of this petition, it's time that people realize that things like these won't do shit, to put it bluntly. To stop this madness, we have to attack and bring down the people who cause this retardation - the content industries. They won't somehow come to their senses and stop pushing for insane laws and regulations. It's a very dangerous illusion that petty petitions will change anyt…

To stop this madness, we have to attack and bring down the people who cause this retardation - the content industries. The content industries don't cause this. They go to politicians and say "pretty please take away people's freedom to protect our profits". That's the only thing they have the power to do. Politicians are not helpless babies who have no choice but to give big content what it wants. They are intelligen…

Well, I think it's a bit more than: "pretty please take away people's freedom to protect our profits". That's the only thing they have the power to do."

More along the lines of: "Pretty please take away people's freedom and here's a huge bucket of cash set up as an anonymous corporate shell donor. If you don't support us we'll give this huge bucket of cash to your opponent. kthxbye."

But I agree that a lack of term limits or accountability means that its the career politicians who are ultimately responsible.

Re: Stop the E-Parasite Act

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To stop this madness, we have to attack and bring down the people who cause this retardation - the content industries. The content industries don't cause this. They go to politicians and say "pretty please take away people's freedom to protect our profits". That's the only thing they have the power to do. Politicians are not helpless babies who have no choice but to give big content what it wants. They are intelligen…

Well, I think it's a bit more than: "pretty please take away people's freedom to protect our profits". That's the only thing they have the power to do." More along the lines of: "Pretty please take away people's freedom and here's a huge bucket of cash set up as an anonymous corporate shell donor. If you don't support us we'll give this huge bucket of cash to your opponent. kthxbye." But I agree that a lack of term l…

"Pretty please take away people's freedom and here's a huge bucket of cash set up as an anonymous corporate shell donor. If you don't support us we'll give this huge bucket of cash to your opponent. kthxbye."

Ok, more precisely: "pretty please take away people's freedom or else we might tell everybody that you're a poopy head."

Re: Stop the E-Parasite Act

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post #8

While I definitely support the notion of this petition, it's time that people realize that things like these won't do shit, to put it bluntly. To stop this madness, we have to attack and bring down the people who cause this retardation - the content industries. They won't somehow come to their senses and stop pushing for insane laws and regulations. It's a very dangerous illusion that petty petitions will change anyt…

To stop this madness, we have to attack and bring down the people who cause this retardation - the content industries. The content industries don't cause this. They go to politicians and say "pretty please take away people's freedom to protect our profits". That's the only thing they have the power to do. Politicians are not helpless babies who have no choice but to give big content what it wants. They are intelligen…

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Re: Stop the E-Parasite Act

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Do these petitions do any good? That is, is it even worthwhile to sign it? Or is our time better spent elsewhere.

Not sure about how these work in the US but I know in Britain our e-petitions have some rule whereby if they get over a certain threshold of signitures (around 100,000 I believe) then the house of commons must assign time to talk about the issues.

The problem being that most of the petitions that get any significant number of signitures are predictable , populist stuff like "Britain should leave the EU" , "bring back hanging" and "legalise Marijuana" , basically stuff that if the government had any inclination to do they would have already done by now so really all it does is waste everybody's time.

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