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I think it's a good idea, but I also envision a lot of cheating just to get free money. If they can tailor this so that cheating isn't possible then I think it's a great idea for some areas of the country.
Having worked with kids before: Kids and young people will game the hell out of any incentive structure put in front of them with terrifying efficiency. If anyone gets the idea that they can make some money by falling behind and then catching up later, a significant number of students will start falling behind so then can execute whatever catch-up maneuvers get them their payout.
So sidestep the issue completely and pay everyone when they reach the achievement threshold.
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Too dumb to setup cookiebar, I guess.
Setting up all the random shit gdpr requires (downloading and deleting data, protection officer blah blah blah) takes a lot more than a cookie bar. It's expensive and if the site doesn't make much money from europe, why the hell would it waste money on doing that?
I think it's a good idea, but I also envision a lot of cheating just to get free money. If they can tailor this so that cheating isn't possible then I think it's a great idea for some areas of the country.
The obvious solution is to pay everyone when they reach the achievement levels, not just the people who fell behind and then caught up. Having worked with kids before: Kids and young people will game the hell out of any incentive structure put in front of them with terrifying efficiency. If anyone gets the idea that they can make some money by falling behind and then catching up later, a significant number of student…
They're paying people for activity (input) not achievement (output).
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Or too dumb to just not use tracking cookies in the first place?
I honestly feel like comments like this come from people who have never run a marketing team. Analytics cookies are very useful.
Anybody who has ever worked on open source projects should know that incentives are not always additive.
https://commoncausefoundation.org/michael-sandel-on-the-corr...
Yeah incentives can be gamed... But if in the process of gaming, the students achieve the outcome, does it really matter?
https://dollyparton.com/imagination_library/buddy-program/15...
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I honestly feel like comments like this come from people who have never run a marketing team. Analytics cookies are very useful.
Because server side tracking isn't sufficient? I've heard from numerous people that it definitely is. Tracking cookies are a massive privacy invasion for what is minimal, if any, benefit
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Because server side tracking isn't sufficient? I've heard from numerous people that it definitely is. Tracking cookies are a massive privacy invasion for what is minimal, if any, benefit
Even if your site is set up well to support it there is objectively less data you get back. Like it's hard to figure out where are the trigger points that increase or decrease conversion all that stuff. Or if people leave and come back. And it's a lot harder to run your own analytics (coming from somebody who does) even if you are just hosting somebody else's solution.
Only semi related, but when Dolly Parton noticed that her home town had 30%+ highschool dropout rates, she created the buddy program. Pair with a friend, and if you both graduate, you both get $500. Drop out rate dropped to 6%. Yeah incentives can be gamed... But if in the process of gaming, the students achieve the outcome, does it really matter? https://dollyparton.com/imagination_library/buddy-program/15...
Edit: Dolly _personally handed them the cheque_! I could see that being more of a motivation than the cash itself
Edit 2: I would highly recommend listening to "Dolly Parton's America" - https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/dolly-partons-america