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The dissolution of Apple’s legacy design team

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Re: The dissolution of Apple’s legacy design team

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I respect Ive's design skills but I think that Ive leaving is one of the best things to happen to Apple in decades. They're slowly going from Ive's minimalist artistic designs back to useful computing devices and user interfaces.

> They're slowly going from Ive's minimalist artistic designs back to useful computing devices and user interfaces.

Is this a subtle attack on USB-C?

Re: The dissolution of Apple’s legacy design team

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I prefer the current balance of Ive-inspired-designs WITHOUT Ive's obsessions.

But something also not frequently said: Apple had amazing designs (compared to the rest of the industry), for 2 decades before Ive started his thing. Heck, NeXT too.

Also, if I had to suffer yet another cookie-cutter Ive post-release video about a product, I'd kill myself...

Re: The dissolution of Apple’s legacy design team

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post #4

I respect Ive's design skills but I think that Ive leaving is one of the best things to happen to Apple in decades. They're slowly going from Ive's minimalist artistic designs back to useful computing devices and user interfaces.

> They're slowly going from Ive's minimalist artistic designs back to useful computing devices and user interfaces. Is this a subtle attack on USB-C?

It's an attack on the butterfly keyboard, removing MagSafe, removing HDMI, removing the headphone jack, reducing battery capacity, the unreadable iOS 7 UI, the trash can, etc.

Re: The dissolution of Apple’s legacy design team

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post #4

I respect Ive's design skills but I think that Ive leaving is one of the best things to happen to Apple in decades. They're slowly going from Ive's minimalist artistic designs back to useful computing devices and user interfaces.

> They're slowly going from Ive's minimalist artistic designs back to useful computing devices and user interfaces. Is this a subtle attack on USB-C?

Nothing "subtle" about the attack. The butterfly keyboard is a very obvious and outright failure.

This failure resulted in a support program that covered the entire output of the Apple MacBook Pro product line for half a decade.

Nothing subtle about that at all.

Re: The dissolution of Apple’s legacy design team

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post #4

I respect Ive's design skills but I think that Ive leaving is one of the best things to happen to Apple in decades. They're slowly going from Ive's minimalist artistic designs back to useful computing devices and user interfaces.

I agree. Jon Ive was a genius with design when he had to work under constrained scenarios. But the moment he had unconstrained power, form was able to win over functionality.

I think Ive was a fantastic and visionary industrial designer, but when he debuted as the design czar over software as well I think Apple’s UX kinda entered a nosedive. The actual designers “on the ground” there really pulled iOS through those times and I agree with other commenter that nowadays Apple is really so much better.

Re: The dissolution of Apple’s legacy design team

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post #4

I respect Ive's design skills but I think that Ive leaving is one of the best things to happen to Apple in decades. They're slowly going from Ive's minimalist artistic designs back to useful computing devices and user interfaces.

I saw a woman using one of the new Macbook Pros in an airport a few weeks ago, and I was confused, because it looked exactly like my beloved silver Macbook Pro from 2007. It even had lots of ports!

With the speed of the M-series processors, and the fact that I can get one with ports and without an idiotic touchbar, I've started considering an Apple laptop for the first time in years.

I'm sure it's just a matter of time before the pendulum swings back again, alas.

Re: The dissolution of Apple’s legacy design team

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From the outside, it seems like the poison of flat design only flourished when Jobs died. The beautiful, thoughtful, intuitive, accessible skeuomorphism was replaced with flat design only after Jobs wasn’t there. Was Jony only able to wrench away the beauty then? It seems like it. Humans live in a 3D world and take visual cues from things like lighting, gradients, shadows, materials and textures. Flat design strips that all away.

Re: The dissolution of Apple’s legacy design team

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From the outside, it seems like the poison of flat design only flourished when Jobs died. The beautiful, thoughtful, intuitive, accessible skeuomorphism was replaced with flat design only after Jobs wasn’t there. Was Jony only able to wrench away the beauty then? It seems like it. Humans live in a 3D world and take visual cues from things like lighting, gradients, shadows, materials and textures. Flat design strips t…

I agree, I love skeuomorphic designs even though the common consensus seems to be that it's obsolete/outdated. I guess it's a consequence of the unusually high influence Apple has on the design world. It seems like no matter what Apple decides to do, every single designer will blindly follow them.

Re: The dissolution of Apple’s legacy design team

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post #4

I respect Ive's design skills but I think that Ive leaving is one of the best things to happen to Apple in decades. They're slowly going from Ive's minimalist artistic designs back to useful computing devices and user interfaces.

Another point of the article that's compatible with what you're saying but still a concern - anything under Tim's $10b potential threshold gets more excluded from cross-team collaboration and attention and resources than they did previously
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