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Kickstarter Union voted 97.6% to ratify one of the first tech union contracts

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Kickstarter may survive since they enjoy near monopoly status, but otherwise how can they compete given that high performers in tech are allergic to unions?

> high performers in tech are allergic to unions?

High performers in tech do not have a problem with the heirs who own a majority of their corporation's stock telling them what to do, but are allergic to the people alongside them doing the work and creating the wealth from having input.

Re: Kickstarter Union voted 97.6% to ratify one of the first tech union contracts

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How profitable is kick starter? I've not kept up, but it's certainly not discussed much these days According to Wikipedia: Net income: $1.3 million after tax (2019)[1]: 1

That's not much money at all.

Will this lead to reduced employment in Kickstarter? Probably

Re: Kickstarter Union voted 97.6% to ratify one of the first tech union contracts

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post #5

Kickstarter may survive since they enjoy near monopoly status, but otherwise how can they compete given that high performers in tech are allergic to unions?

> Kickstarter may survive since they enjoy near monopoly status, but otherwise how can they compete given that high performers in tech are allergic to unions? "high performers" aren't going to be satisfied by Kickstarter's compensation at first place thus won't apply there. Also good luck arguing to your boss you are a "high performer" in a company that has "progressive performance evaluation", by what measure? This…

Good point. I didn't realize they had already weeded them out.

Re: Kickstarter Union voted 97.6% to ratify one of the first tech union contracts

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Is it mandatory for employees to join the union?

Or course not. You can work somewhere else if you don’t want collective representation. Can’t have your cake and eat it too, getting benefits of a union without joining it is freeloading.

Re: Kickstarter Union voted 97.6% to ratify one of the first tech union contracts

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Love that someone in tech is finally getting unions in tech, don't love that it was kickstarter though. Their corporate culture is very toxic and I don't see them sticking around long term. It might be just me but my impression of kickstarter is that they are some of the worst offenders of 'maximum virtue signaling, minimum virtue'. That makes me inherently skeptical of a move like this.

Re: Kickstarter Union voted 97.6% to ratify one of the first tech union contracts

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Minimum 3% annual CoL raises Weird that they call it a CoL raise. If it isn't tied to cost, it is just an minimum annual raise.

Weird that you're arguing that 3% isn't a CoL raise, when inflation has been pegged to 2.25% for decades, and is currently 8%+

I think what the person you responded to is saying is that the raise should be tied to inflation. You may not actually disagree with them.

Re: Kickstarter Union voted 97.6% to ratify one of the first tech union contracts

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Big no thanks to this.

If you hate where you work this much, improve yourself and work somewhere else.

  Replacing at-will with "just cause", progressive disciplining, with criteria for performance improvement plans.
If you're three years into a career in tech (technical or not) and you haven't figured out that being PIP'd or indirectly told you're fucking up - making this language "nicer" isn't going to help anyone.

Adults don't give feedback in a transparent way and this is because they don't want to look discriminatory. Modern employment and HR policies have done great things, but they've made the waters for this kind of communication even more opaque and pushed incentives that way as well.

Being unable to effectively communicate in a competitive professional environment as an adult and unionizing to solve this problem is at best juvenile, even worse when you think about long-tail consequences in terms of babying future hires.

As someone who previously worked at Amazon and found it shitty, Amazon is a stupid point of comparison for unionizing in tech because it's a shit-show run like a hedge fund. However, as a heuristic, people who've spent more than two years at any kind of Amazon should be avoided IMO.

Re: Kickstarter Union voted 97.6% to ratify one of the first tech union contracts

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Minimum 3% annual CoL raises Weird that they call it a CoL raise. If it isn't tied to cost, it is just an minimum annual raise.

Weird that you're arguing that 3% isn't a CoL raise, when inflation has been pegged to 2.25% for decades, and is currently 8%+

Inflation is different from cost of living else high cost of living regions wouldn't exist.

Re: Kickstarter Union voted 97.6% to ratify one of the first tech union contracts

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post #8

Is it mandatory for employees to join the union?

Depends on the contract, but when I worked for Kroger years ago, if I opted out of the union, I got like 2 more $ an hour but at the cost of some other benefits. I was 15 so of course I opted out for that extra cash.
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