Live data from Hacker News

Is IPv6 faster than IPv4?

pansift.com

11–20 of 90 posts

Re: Is IPv6 faster than IPv4?

#11

I still can't get away from this sensation that no matter how good IPv6 is, the ship has sailed. The inferior but indisputably cheaper technology won out over the technically superior one. VHS vs Betamax. Ethernet over Token Ring.

Yet, while people keep saying that, ipv6 adoption only goes up every month. I'm having a hard time accepting "the ship has sailed" while my home outbound connections use ipv6 for more and more endpoints.

Re: Is IPv6 faster than IPv4?

#12

I still can't get away from this sensation that no matter how good IPv6 is, the ship has sailed. The inferior but indisputably cheaper technology won out over the technically superior one. VHS vs Betamax. Ethernet over Token Ring.

Yet, while people keep saying that, ipv6 adoption only goes up every month. I'm having a hard time accepting "the ship has sailed" while my home outbound connections use ipv6 for more and more endpoints.

Yeah, definitely. I made a mistake a while back, and swapped one of my testing networks to v6 only, and I was surprised I only noticed things were broken after a few days (looking at you github).

I think it has a lot to do with people being put behind cloudflare etc, and getting v6 basically for free

Re: Is IPv6 faster than IPv4?

#13

I still can't get away from this sensation that no matter how good IPv6 is, the ship has sailed. The inferior but indisputably cheaper technology won out over the technically superior one. VHS vs Betamax. Ethernet over Token Ring.

Yet, while people keep saying that, ipv6 adoption only goes up every month. I'm having a hard time accepting "the ship has sailed" while my home outbound connections use ipv6 for more and more endpoints.

I think businesses are holding up wider V6 deployment. In a lot of them that I've worked with, you don't talk about v6 as it's either a thing no one wants to learn or has no value worth implementing.

Re: Is IPv6 faster than IPv4?

#15

I still can't get away from this sensation that no matter how good IPv6 is, the ship has sailed. The inferior but indisputably cheaper technology won out over the technically superior one. VHS vs Betamax. Ethernet over Token Ring.

No, it’s just happening without much fanfare in the background. Most mobile networks are ipv6 first, for example. And since mobile is where most of the new deployments and growth are, that’s why they’re getting ipv6 first.

Re: Is IPv6 faster than IPv4?

#16

I still can't get away from this sensation that no matter how good IPv6 is, the ship has sailed. The inferior but indisputably cheaper technology won out over the technically superior one. VHS vs Betamax. Ethernet over Token Ring.

The original RFC came out in 1995, the modern RFC used today in 1998 - almost 25 years ago. When I was in college in 2012 (going through the Cisco NetAcad) they were preaching that our IPv6 future was "just around the corner". I am going on 10 years in network and security now, and I still don't see it. At least in the US, IPv4 is, and will remain, the dominant force.

There are many reasons for this, but one of the biggest is - from a practical standpoint, the only thing wrong with it is the lack of addresses. Even the perceived shortage is hardly felt though - what is the going rate of an Elastic IP not associated with an EC2 instance these days, $0.005 per hour?

Re: Is IPv6 faster than IPv4?

#18
post #8

I still can't get away from this sensation that no matter how good IPv6 is, the ship has sailed. The inferior but indisputably cheaper technology won out over the technically superior one. VHS vs Betamax. Ethernet over Token Ring.

I get that feeling sometimes too. I think though it's not going to be so clear a winner as with your examples. We'll be living with both probably forever. Maybe an example for comparison is iPhone vs Android, or Windows vs Mac? We'll be living with both for a long time too.

More like BD vs. DVD - 'living with both for a long time' as you say, but also one is a clear successor.

Re: Is IPv6 faster than IPv4?

#20

It seems that this article is missing the forest for the trees. The biggest improvement will come not from the raw speed but from the entire IPv6 eco-system. For example, the new segment routing for IPv6 or SRv6 should improve the Quality of Service (QoS) for examples bandwidth, delay and jitter by having control at the edge. This is unlike MPLS where the control is done in the core itself and that's why MPLS is call…

A poor link - a book written by Huwaei doesn't scream "This is a widely used standard"

Wikipedia would be a far better link, as it has links to RFCs, Cisco, Juniper Arista etc pages on it, and generally lets normal people who likely haven't heard of it read about it

Post reply on HN