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Health minister: Unexplained high death counts in New Brunswick concerning

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Re: Health minister: Unexplained high death counts in New Brunswick concerning

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And why would these excess deaths be localized to New Brunswick?

UK has excess non-covid deaths as well

https://www.euroscientist.com/uk-recorded-more-than-10000-ex...

Re: Health minister: Unexplained high death counts in New Brunswick concerning

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isn't this the state/province/county/whatever with the brain disease similar to prion going around?

Yup. Or at least there was significant fear about it being a new prion-related neurological disease. Since then, the government has "investigated" and been pretty vocal in denying any environmental causation or even any connection amongst patients whatsoever. In fact, there is apparently no "shared common illness" at all:

> An oversight committee reviewing the case files of all 48 of the potential cases found that the patients didn’t have symptoms in common or have a shared common illness.

> A separate in-depth epidemiological investigation last fall concluded the patients didn’t have any common behaviours, foods or environmental exposures.

> Following these reports, all the patients were excluded from the cluster and the Minister of Health has accepted the conclusion that no such neurological syndrome of unknown cause exists in New Brunswick.

https://www2.gnb.ca/content/gnb/en/departments/health/neuro-...

Our government has a long history of arrogance and paternalism (probably nothing too unique there), and incredibly deep ties to the most powerful corporation in NB (again nothing new there), Irving, which has a uhh, let's just say, tenuous relationship with the environment and pollution. So it's hard to say whether or not one should believe the government's conclusion. But there it is.

Re: Health minister: Unexplained high death counts in New Brunswick concerning

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And why would these excess deaths be localized to New Brunswick?

UK has excess non-covid deaths as well https://www.euroscientist.com/uk-recorded-more-than-10000-ex...

Can't that be explained by the delayed and cancelled normal checkups over the covid period?

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isn't this the state/province/county/whatever with the brain disease similar to prion going around?

Yup. Or at least there was significant fear about it being a new prion-related neurological disease. Since then, the government has "investigated" and been pretty vocal in denying any environmental causation or even any connection amongst patients whatsoever. In fact, there is apparently no "shared common illness" at all: > An oversight committee reviewing the case files of all 48 of the potential cases found that th…

Let’s be honest… Irving fucking owns the province. It’s enormous control has been held onto since the era of Golden Age wealth in America and they have a hilarious history of not giving a fuck about anything that costs them money they don’t have to spend. Safety, Health, Pollution, you name it Irving has probably cut all legal corners and is lobbying to make new ones they can cut.

It’s basically Canada’s “friendly” neighbourhood Lawful Evil Corporate Overlord.

Re: Health minister: Unexplained high death counts in New Brunswick concerning

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The next 5 years could be very interesting and sad if it turns out that COVID has lasting, long term damaging effects on your organs and vascular system, we are just beginning to see the tip of the iceberg. For example, there is an extremely serious post covid multi-system organ inflammation that occurs in children : https://www.cdc.gov/mis/mis-c.html Watch, I bet we will even see a huge jump in rare cancers. Edit: A…

Some of what you wrote is true and some of it is pure speculation. I downvoted you for the unsubstantiated fear mongering in this sentence:

> Watch, I bet we will even see a huge jump in rare cancers.

People are afraid enough we don’t need that.

Re: Health minister: Unexplained high death counts in New Brunswick concerning

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isn't this the state/province/county/whatever with the brain disease similar to prion going around?

I am not sure, but I believe at this point they think it is environmental as a best guess? Everything else has been looked into if I remember correctly.

It is most likely to be Covid. Many jurisdictions have undercounted Covid deaths especially for older people who die at home.
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