I just found out this now and I'm upset. I've been a paying user for a long time and won't use attachments anymore. Might as well consider migrating to a different password manager to migrate my attachments. Thanks for letting me know.
Tell HN: Bitwarden does not export attachments in backups
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Re: Tell HN: Bitwarden does not export attachments in backups
#12Bitwarden pivoted to serving enterprise needs (like SSO, collaboration) a few years ago and hasn’t given much attention to improving the basic product itself (there still aren’t additional types, like licenses, WiFi passwords, etc.). You can file this as an issue and wait.
I'm wondering why their enterprise clients are ok with this though. I would have thought they'd get more pressure from them since most businesses would not want to lose all their attachments if there's a problem.
Or maybe businesses forbid attachments in the first place or maybe they haven't realized and are okay with what being now locked in the service.
Isn't the bitwarden client opensource enough or the implementation free that someone could come in and modify the export functionality or add the functionality to the API ?
Re: Tell HN: Bitwarden does not export attachments in backups
#13Bitwarden pivoted to serving enterprise needs (like SSO, collaboration) a few years ago and hasn’t given much attention to improving the basic product itself (there still aren’t additional types, like licenses, WiFi passwords, etc.). You can file this as an issue and wait.
I'm wondering why their enterprise clients are ok with this though. I would have thought they'd get more pressure from them since most businesses would not want to lose all their attachments if there's a problem.
Perhaps attachments isn't an enterprise priority over things like SSO support and other features that have seen changes and additions?
Re: Tell HN: Bitwarden does not export attachments in backups
#14I went to bitwarden from dashlane that didnt even export secure notes
https://www.reddit.com/r/Dashlane/comments/gfwyvo/comment/fq...
This is the same thing again.
I switched to 1password before all the funding and feel like there arent any viable alternatives now.
Edit: to be clear this isnt me on reddit this thread is just what backed up bitwarden.
Re: Tell HN: Bitwarden does not export attachments in backups
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm wondering why their enterprise clients are ok with this though. I would have thought they'd get more pressure from them since most businesses would not want to lose all their attachments if there's a problem.
Or maybe businesses forbid attachments in the first place or maybe they haven't realized and are okay with what being now locked in the service. Isn't the bitwarden client opensource enough or the implementation free that someone could come in and modify the export functionality or add the functionality to the API ?
Probably enterprises don't want export feature by user.
Re: Tell HN: Bitwarden does not export attachments in backups
#16Looking at the export code: https://github.com/bitwarden/clients/blob/da5e4a57d026e0d093...
The entire export process seems to be client side. Altering the export to include files should be feasible though the Bitwarden devs might choose not to merge your code because allowing users to access all of those Azure buckets all at once must come at a significant cost.
My workaround for this is to stuff SSH keys and the like in secret fields rather than attachments. This doesn't work for larger files, but it works well enough for my use cases so far.
Re: Tell HN: Bitwarden does not export attachments in backups
#17I use bitwarden/vaultwarden (self hosted), and didn't even know there was an attachment option, so haven't used it upto now.
I did use notes (for storing stuff like ssh/gpg keys), and can confirm that these are exported correctly. Attachments are also not exported in vaultwarden as far as I can see.
I'll just stick to stuffing files in notes for now, as I had been doing.
Re: Tell HN: Bitwarden does not export attachments in backups
#18Can you migrate storage of your SSH keys in Bitwarden to custom fields[1]? Those should -- I think -- be exported with the contents of the vault. [1] - https://bitwarden.com/help/custom-fields/#custom-fields-for-...
Custom fields, or notes, both are exported
Re: Tell HN: Bitwarden does not export attachments in backups
#19Bitwarden pivoted to serving enterprise needs (like SSO, collaboration) a few years ago and hasn’t given much attention to improving the basic product itself (there still aren’t additional types, like licenses, WiFi passwords, etc.). You can file this as an issue and wait.
Just like every other product initially launched for consumers, eventually pivoting to enterprises and forgetting about the little guy. Seems it's impossible for people to run companies for the average consumer. Are their cash-flow really so bad they can't help themselves going into the enterprise market or is there something else going on?
Enterprises are vastly more willing to pay to have their problems solved than consumers. (I say this as I see the difference in behavior in my own two personas.)
Enterprises don’t blink at paying $50K/yr for something to improve security and save staff thousands of hours of time. Consumers are used to things being (or appearing to be) free. On a per-user basis, I’d expect consumers to ask more questions of support, while paying much less.
Re: Tell HN: Bitwarden does not export attachments in backups
#20This is one of my motivation to selfhosted Vaultwarden [0]. Full features, lightweight with Rust, privacy, and full control.