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macOS 13 Ventura dumps all pre-2017 Macs, including the “trash can” Mac Pro

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Re: macOS 13 Ventura dumps all pre-2017 Macs, including the “trash can” Mac Pro

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Post by redbell »

cywick wrote: post #4

It's really disappointing how aggressively they have started to drop macOS support for slightly older Macs. Big Sur, which was released in Nov 2020, still supported the MacBook Air (2013) and the MacBook Pro (Late 2013). When Ventura is released only two years later, not even the MacBook Pro (2016) is supported, which was sold until Jun 2017. The fact that Ventura even drops support for a Mac that they sold until Dec…

I own a Mac mini (late 2014) and it still run perfectly fine especially when I upgraded its HDD disk to an SSD, it upgraded automatically to macOS 12 Monterey and was hoping it will be able to upgrade to macOS 13 but unfortunately, it seems to be the end..

Re: macOS 13 Ventura dumps all pre-2017 Macs, including the “trash can” Mac Pro

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Post by lp0_on_fire »

devit wrote: post #8

Use desktop Linux, the only operating system that respects you and the usefulness of the hardware you own by supporting all hardware forever.

Unfortunately this is not a solution for a large majority of people who a) don't know/care what Linux is (which is suspect is an even larger majority of Mac users) or b) know what Linux is but are locked into some piece of proprietary software that only runs on the commercial OSs.

I'm not one to capriciously suggest government regulation but I think there is space somewhere for something that says if you're going to offer a general computing product for sale that you need to provide support for it (in terms of bug and security fixes) for n number of years. 10 years seems appropriate in my non-expert opinion.

Re: macOS 13 Ventura dumps all pre-2017 Macs, including the “trash can” Mac Pro

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Post by skavi »

cywick wrote: post #4

It's really disappointing how aggressively they have started to drop macOS support for slightly older Macs. Big Sur, which was released in Nov 2020, still supported the MacBook Air (2013) and the MacBook Pro (Late 2013). When Ventura is released only two years later, not even the MacBook Pro (2016) is supported, which was sold until Jun 2017. The fact that Ventura even drops support for a Mac that they sold until Dec…

It’s interesting that this seems like it may happen faster than the PowerPC -> Intel transition, where it took three years after the last PowerPC model was replaced and Snow Leopard stopped supporting PowerPC.

Did OS X have security updates then?

Re: macOS 13 Ventura dumps all pre-2017 Macs, including the “trash can” Mac Pro

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Post by iwanttocomment »

tromp wrote: post #7

I suffer from a similar issue. The current magic keyboards that Apple sells require MacOS >= 11.3 while my 2017 iMac is stuck on MacOS 10.15. As a result, the media keys on my new keyboard don't work.

macOS 12.x supports the 2015 (and 2017) iMacs.

Re: macOS 13 Ventura dumps all pre-2017 Macs, including the “trash can” Mac Pro

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Post by yieldcrv »

ChildOfChaos wrote: post #9

Bit disappointed to see my iMac 2015 dropped. It's got an i7 running at 4ghz, I paid for the graphics card update to 395x and 32gb of ram. It still runs everything absolutely flawlessly. I have no plans to upgrade anytime soon. So hopefully will run the OS with a hack, as I don't see what this OS needs better specs for, considering i'm sure lower spec machines can run it, so it's just Apple cutting it off for being A…

> Else it's back to Windows 10 for me, via boot camp.

Amazing longevity if you think about it that way.

But many computers last 7+ years nowadays in compatibility with everything, so that's not really a silver lining.

The main irony to me is that its common for different people to talk about how they are never upgrading their MacOS.

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