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Lifestyle Startups Stigma

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Re: Lifestyle Startups Stigma

#11
An odd insight to "lifestyle startups" I had (and posted about) a while back...

For a while I was fascinated and amazed at projects pursuing absurd mega-goals, attempts to get something off the ground so big it was nigh unto stupid. A floating city configuring an independent libertarian utopia nation. A billion-dollar indoor ski resort just outside Atlanta. A bridge from Spain to Africa sporting a 5 mile suspended span. A world-class [fill in the blank, how much ya got?] facility annex to a super-mall in "why would anyone move there" Syracuse NY. A "fast ferry" across Lake Ontario connecting Toronto with "why would you go there" Rochester NY. And so on, one project after another with big flashing "ain't gonna happen" signs over them.

Then I realized. It wasn't success of the project that was the goal, it was keeping a small team of creatives employed in a perpetual state of promotion and study-funding: find someone with deep enough pockets, and they'll shell out a livable fee to be able to say "hey, look at this..." to other deep pockets. No way that Atlanta ski resort would happen, but the idea was exciting enough to elicit enough funding for studies to pay the bills (at least until the vital-to-snow-making nearby lake almost dried up) for a few people in modest offices. You can make a nice, if modest, living promoting stupid ideas.

And if the stupid idea actually pans out, takes off, and succeeds, well, the possibility of success is awesome enough to keep trying.

Re: Lifestyle Startups Stigma

#12
It's simple really: lifestyle businesses supply enough profit to fund the creator and his or her employees and suppliers. They do not typically create enough free cash to interest investors.

Investors/VCs/Angels define "success" as an investment that returns enough cash to not only make a positive return on its own, but also to offset losses from the other "misses" in the portfolio.

That investment return can come directly from profit, or it can be achieved by telling a compelling growth story that allows others to buy out the investor's position and provide an exit for the early investor.

So, the question is really one of audience: do you aspire to provide a good living for yourself, your employees, and your business partners? Or are you swinging for the fences and able to provide returns to the investment community as well?

Whether you consider Google, Groupon, or Joe's Garage to be a success really depends on who your constituents are.

Re: Lifestyle Startups Stigma

#14
Gimme a break. There's no mystery here. "Tech elite" is a code word for venture capital. VCs pooh-pooh lifestyle and bootstrapped businesses because there's no opportunity for them to profit. VC-backed founders have been successful at raising investment, so of course they're not interested in a business that doesn't require it. Both groups want to define success in terms that give them a business advantage.

Re: Lifestyle Startups Stigma

#15
"Revenue generation is third on the list. It is really “nice” your balance sheets to have 7 or even better 8 zeros next to Revenue. Profit…"

This is just wrong. Even Google had early minor revenue. Revenue traction is king, it's the best kind of traction. User traction is a higher-risk proxy and thus must be more impressive to result in the same valuation after the risk discount.

Aside: Wanting to start a lifestyle startup does imply, correctly so, less ambition than the swing-for-the-fencers founders. That's why they're easy to pick on, ambition makes for much better stories.

Re: Lifestyle Startups Stigma

#16
post #13

There's already a word for a lifestyle startup: a business.

lol .. "float like a butterfly, sting like a bee"

I think Balsamiq[1] provides an interesting exception to above article as well as many comments.

Peldi's a guy with incredible vision. I would not be surprised in the least if he swings for the fences without VC. Institutional folk have tried courting this boutique " lifestyle " business without success.

[1] - http://balsamiq.com

Re: Lifestyle Startups Stigma

#17

"Revenue generation is third on the list. It is really “nice” your balance sheets to have 7 or even better 8 zeros next to Revenue. Profit…" This is just wrong. Even Google had early minor revenue. Revenue traction is king, it's the best kind of traction. User traction is a higher-risk proxy and thus must be more impressive to result in the same valuation after the risk discount. Aside: Wanting to start a lifestyle s…

> ambition makes for much better stories

quite a lot of tragedies have ambition as the "fatal flaw" of the main character.

Having revenue or profit also starts to give a point of reference for your valuation if you are raising money, which may or may not be what you'd like.

Re: Lifestyle Startups Stigma

#18

"Revenue generation is third on the list. It is really “nice” your balance sheets to have 7 or even better 8 zeros next to Revenue. Profit…" This is just wrong. Even Google had early minor revenue. Revenue traction is king, it's the best kind of traction. User traction is a higher-risk proxy and thus must be more impressive to result in the same valuation after the risk discount. Aside: Wanting to start a lifestyle s…

> ambition makes for much better stories quite a lot of tragedies have ambition as the "fatal flaw" of the main character. Having revenue or profit also starts to give a point of reference for your valuation if you are raising money, which may or may not be what you'd like.

> quite a lot of tragedies have ambition as the "fatal flaw" of the main character.

Agreed - still a good story.

Re: Lifestyle Startups Stigma

#20
post #13

There's already a word for a lifestyle startup: a business.

A small business, which has other connotations (i.e., unlikely to turn into the next big thing).

I would even add: that you may not want to become the next big thing.
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