So this was not enough? https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/15320445618071797...
Well, that happened yesterday and is probably part of their process of reducing numbers by 10%. It's better if they quit than if they're laid off.
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#12Uh,ok... Two days ago the "Who is hiring" thread here had something like 20+ software engineering positions for Tesla. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31585021 More erratic decision making from Mr Musk. Like, I dunno, the time he told Twitter he was taking Tesla private while tripping on LSD. He needs to step aside from Tesla at this point.
It's possible they are still hiring for software and laying off for other areas.
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#13Anybody care to speculate on the chance that Twitter forces their sale to him, and then TSLA goes down far enough that Musk gets a margin call on the loan he's using to finance the purchase, and he loses everything? Or at least half of everything?
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
Musk’s return to office directive is likely a mechanism to force quits and avoid the WARN act and paying severance to thousands of workers. Edit: If you’re looking for SWEs, I’ve spoken to three at Tesla who are looking for new opportunities. They’re an org to target for talent acquisition.
Yeah, his directive seemed obviously aimed at getting people to quit. As I have understand it, legally, that's transparently the same thing. Hence his very public hiring of lawyers whose qualifications are "fighting" to discourage employees from seeking what they are owed.
I think it's not legally the same thing. Since doing things to get people to quit have to be larger than you need to work at your place of employment. It's moving them across the country, making them work unsocialable hours, etc. Not returning to the office, which the goverment actually wants. Remote work is bad for the economy.
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#15> The message, sent on Thursday and titled “pause all hiring worldwide”, came two days after the billionaire told staff to return to the workplace or leave
So people who claimed less than 24h ago it was at lest partially a way of creating cheap layoffs, were proven right pretty swiftly.
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#16A couple of days ago somebody posted this Reddit thread: https://old.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/v2lpdw/e...
"Tesla expanded massively during Covid, as of now half of the dev team(including me) don’t have parking space or desk. It’s physically impossible for everyone to return to office.
"Should I ignore the email, or should I drive to the office and sit under the stairs?"
Commenters' general feeling was that it was a soft layoff, and some speculated that it might amount to constructive dismissal.
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#17Uh,ok... Two days ago the "Who is hiring" thread here had something like 20+ software engineering positions for Tesla. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31585021 More erratic decision making from Mr Musk. Like, I dunno, the time he told Twitter he was taking Tesla private while tripping on LSD. He needs to step aside from Tesla at this point.
The same can be said about Coinbase and look what's happening. Let's just say buyer beware when it comes to meme companies.
The thing is, Tesla isn't a Coinbase. Tesla is now a giant manufacturing company that makes a lot of things, brings in revenue, and has some really solid engineering. I don't like their cars from a UX standpoint, but the engineering in their motors and battery packs are solid good products.
Move fast and break things might have been fine in the early days. Seems to me like the company needs to 'grow up' and demonstrate responsibility to shareholders and customers, and to do that it likely involves significantly sidelining Musk, who clearly behaves very erratically.
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#18A couple of days ago somebody posted this Reddit thread: https://old.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/v2lpdw/e... "Tesla expanded massively during Covid, as of now half of the dev team(including me) don’t have parking space or desk. It’s physically impossible for everyone to return to office. "Should I ignore the email, or should I drive to the office and sit under the stairs?" Commenters' general feeling was…
They can and will buy desks.
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#19Uh,ok... Two days ago the "Who is hiring" thread here had something like 20+ software engineering positions for Tesla. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31585021 More erratic decision making from Mr Musk. Like, I dunno, the time he told Twitter he was taking Tesla private while tripping on LSD. He needs to step aside from Tesla at this point.
That's actually pretty standard practice. An official layoff at a large company is going to be kept to a pretty tight circle until it is officially announced. It isn't uncommon for hiring managers to be unaware and only know that currently they have open head count, even if the plan in the works is to include open positions as part of the reduction in force.
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#20> Elon Musk feels ‘super bad’ about economy
Considering how bad Elon is at making predictions, this is actually great news.