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California Drought Update May 2022 [pdf]

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Re: California Drought Update May 2022 [pdf]

#11
California is becoming a untenable to live. We had several power outages, roads are awful, had a sewage backup issue that took a month to get resolved, and the price of electricity is through the roof ($0.40/kWH).

The idea of the people have here is to regress into a third-world standard of living through the virtue of environmentalism, depopulation, and general attitude against success/ambition/improvement. Providing ideas and solutions is considered offensive.

Re: California Drought Update May 2022 [pdf]

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The irony being that israel has "solved" water problems in agriculture largely, by reusing waste water and drip irrigation and simply have the users pay for that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_supply_and_sanitation_in...

This sounds like a typical US thing. Suffering from a solveable problem, while creating the maximum public drama and having the society incapable of reform as a sort of greek-tragedy-background chorus humming nimby.

Should such topics be removed similar to us-healthcare to give important topics with actual solution discussions more room?

Re: California Drought Update May 2022 [pdf]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agricultural Water Rights are a complex issue...

A reduction in water consumption is needed. Agriculture uses 80% of the water - and pays far less for it than other users. Doesn't seem very complex to me?

Just because it doesn't seem complex doesn't mean it isn't.

Re: California Drought Update May 2022 [pdf]

#16

The irony being that israel has "solved" water problems in agriculture largely, by reusing waste water and drip irrigation and simply have the users pay for that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_supply_and_sanitation_in... This sounds like a typical US thing. Suffering from a solveable problem, while creating the maximum public drama and having the society incapable of reform as a sort of greek-tragedy-background…

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Re: California Drought Update May 2022 [pdf]

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"Californians are being asked to reduce their water use by 15 percent over 2020 levels to protect water reserves and help maintain critical flows for fish and wildlife wherever possible." And by that they surely mean agriculture, right? Right? The industry responsible for 80% of the water usage in California? They surely couldn't just be asking urban consumers to reduce? https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/may/2…

It seems that Water Resources Control Board is already pushing the limits of it's mandate to curtail agricultural water use governed by water rights. The issue will be settled politically and/or in courts.

2021:

>California has reduced water rights only a handful of times in the past, but it will probably become more routine as the climate crisis worsens, Jay Lund, the co-director of the Center for Watershed Sciences at UC Davis, told the LA Times.https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/04/california-d...

>Water Resources Control Board voted unanimously to curtail nearly all agricultural water diversions from the Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta watershed ... However, if drought and the board’s no-diversion policy continue into 2022, they will almost certainly ignite a high-stakes political and legal conflict over whether the state can essentially usurp historic water rights and dictate how local farm water systems are to be operated. https://calmatters.org/commentary/2021/08/california-water-r...

Re: California Drought Update May 2022 [pdf]

#18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agricultural Water Rights are a complex issue...

A reduction in water consumption is needed. Agriculture uses 80% of the water - and pays far less for it than other users. Doesn't seem very complex to me?

It’s complex: agricultural water usage is by giant corporations with expensive lawyers. Home water usage doesn’t get defended by an all-star legal team.

Hence it’s much easier to cut down the home usage

Re: California Drought Update May 2022 [pdf]

#19

What is the tactic here? we know the cause is agriculture and blaming grass lawns and car washing can easily be disproven by a quick superficial google search. Pitting people against each other by being water snitches may work unless any actual restrictions are placed. As soon as any restrictions are placed, the whole show gets exposed. So...what is the whole point of the show in the first place?.

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Re: California Drought Update May 2022 [pdf]

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The irony being that israel has "solved" water problems in agriculture largely, by reusing waste water and drip irrigation and simply have the users pay for that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_supply_and_sanitation_in... This sounds like a typical US thing. Suffering from a solveable problem, while creating the maximum public drama and having the society incapable of reform as a sort of greek-tragedy-background…

"This sounds like a typical US thing. Suffering from a solveable problem, while creating the maximum public drama and having the society incapable of reform as a sort of greek-tragedy-background chorus humming nimby."

Love this summation of the US

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