Why the Next Steve Jobs Will be Asian • Hacker News Board

Re: Why the Next Steve Jobs Will be Asian

#11

Post by jfruh » Wed, Oct 26, 2011, 1:55 PM UTC

Anyone else find it weird that the illustration for this article is a group of Asian-American high school students at NYC's Hunter College (which is, despite its name, a high school, not a university)? If those kids are going to HS in the US, they're probably either US citizens (as the name "Asian-American" implies) or have permanent residency, and aren't subject to the constraints on starting a business here that are the focus of the article.

But, whatever, we need a picture for this article, let's just find one of a bunch of yellow kids, right? They're all the same.

Re: Why the Next Steve Jobs Will be Asian

#12

Post by chadmalik » Wed, Oct 26, 2011, 2:00 PM UTC

I'm not big on immigration controls and wish more people could stay in the US (or anywhere else) if they want to. That said, just for the sake of argument, isn't it kind of evil to say that the US should actively try and brain-drain the entire world? Why is it that American kids are being actively disinvested in and the active strategy of the US corporate elite is to effectively steal the best minds of every other country?

Re: Why the Next Steve Jobs Will be Asian

#13

Post by macavity23 » Wed, Oct 26, 2011, 6:38 PM UTC

gms wrote: post #5

It won't happen. Asian cultures are too deferential to authority.

If they were raised AND educated in Asia, then I'd agree with you - but these are guys and gals being taught non-deference in the US culture, then being sent home with it.

Re: Why the Next Steve Jobs Will be Asian

#14

Post by salem » Wed, Oct 26, 2011, 8:52 PM UTC

Both illegal immigration and skilled immigration problems will be gone eventually with no action if the opportunities are no longer better here. Do the majority of Americans really want that?

Re: Why the Next Steve Jobs Will be Asian

#15

Post by jinushaun » Wed, Oct 26, 2011, 9:47 PM UTC

salem wrote: post #14

Both illegal immigration and skilled immigration problems will be gone eventually with no action if the opportunities are no longer better here. Do the majority of Americans really want that?

If I'm Mexican, the US is a lot cheaper and easier to get to than China or India. You're right about the skilled immigrant problem though. That will hit the US hard.

Re: Why the Next Steve Jobs Will be Asian

#16

Post by salem » Thu, Oct 27, 2011, 12:35 AM UTC

jinushaun wrote: post #15

salem wrote: post #14

Both illegal immigration and skilled immigration problems will be gone eventually with no action if the opportunities are no longer better here. Do the majority of Americans really want that?

If I'm Mexican, the US is a lot cheaper and easier to get to than China or India. You're right about the skilled immigrant problem though. That will hit the US hard.

The Mexican economy is doing very well. What happens if economic growth in mexico creates greater demand for unskilled labor, reducing the incentive to work in the USA illegally. There is some research that shows that this could happen in the next decade.

Re: Why the Next Steve Jobs Will be Asian

#17

Post by Hyena » Fri, Oct 28, 2011, 3:10 PM UTC

None of the article provides an argument for their headline. It's just bait for a standard high skill immigration reform op-ed.

If "the next Steve Jobs is Asian", the reason will almost certainly be that Asia has approximately 3.9 billion people and is developing quickly. That's a lot of lottery tickets.