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Apple Removes Flag Icons in Monterey 12.4
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Re: Apple Removes Flag Icons in Monterey 12.4
#12The Unicode Consortium has indicated they won't accept new flags as emoji. https://www.engadget.com/unicode-no-flag-emoji-please-131509... Given this, it's a sensible move; it won't be long before the available set no longer reflects the full set of countries.
Related issue I hadn't thought of before: what happens if the flag is changed?
Suppose it partly depends if the unicode description is 'flag of the country blah' or blazon-style description of what it looks like.
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#13Having a flag displayed isn't apparently worth dealing with the controversy. Decisions like this make me feel like software isn't really designed for people.
Surely "avoiding controversy" or otherwise is exactly what's involved in designing for people?
Controversy is intrinsically a human issue so I'm not sure I get your point.
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#14Having a flag displayed isn't apparently worth dealing with the controversy. Decisions like this make me feel like software isn't really designed for people.
I'm not disagreeing with you, but it's funny because being designed for people is exactly why there is controversy.
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#15I 100% applaud this. I've always used ABC Extended because I thought a flag in the system menu was gaudy and weirdly nationalistic. I know I live in the US and use the American English keyboard layout. Similarly, I don't need a Chinese flag every time I switch to a Chinese keyboard.
What's wrong with nationalism? Do you also think supporting your local community is weird?
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#16In Ukraine this matters for a lot of people. Half if not the majority of ukrainians are russian-speaking and confusing russian language with russia is not something we like.
What I don't understand is why Apple cannot simply make this a toggle option in settings somewhere. No, it has to work one way and one way only...
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#17In Big Sur Apple was using a mix of flags and other icons. The flags seem to be for countries that use the Latin alphabet.
Playing around with the Keyboard Preferences, I've found:
Different Chinese inputs use different sinograms: the one for Pinyin uses the symbol for "Pin"
all Hebrew inputs use the Hebrew letter aleph
all Korean inputs use the same Korean symbol
all Thai inputs use the same Thai symbol
all Arabic inputs use the same Arabic symbol
Greek uses a lambda for one input and an epsilon for the other Russian curiously uses a Russian flag and not a Cyrillic letter
Re: Apple Removes Flag Icons in Monterey 12.4
#18This is ultimately a good move, and matches trends and emerging best practices on the web and elsewhere.
Some countries have more than one language. Some languages have more than one country. And the political implications of all of this all mixed in.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tbh when I used a Mac I did think it looked oddly inconsistent that it was the only colour in the status bar. And as evidenced by OP some people obviously liked that, it's a change, of course some will like and some will not (and others will be indifferent).
It makes it much easier to tell which layout is active.
Specifically that it's in colour? Sure, if you have two layouts with very similar flags I suppose.
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#20I am going to assume this has something to do with China/Taiwan/Hong Kong since that is the only market that is both big enough to force the change and where the political leadership is very sensitive about flag/name/border issues.
doubt it -- see my comment about how Chinese inputs are not using flags in Big Sur