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Firefox appears to be flagged as suspicious by Cloudflare

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Re: Firefox appears to be flagged as suspicious by Cloudflare

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Incredible. I just changed my user-agent whilst on the Google Chrome browser. * Changing to Firefox immediately displayed the Cloudflare error message * Edge had no errors * Chrome had no errors * Safari had no errors Edit: Even internet explorer 9, android kitkat, and the opera browser had no errors. Edit 2: as another user has pointed out, this is most likely a firewall rule put in place by the website operator the…

Do you see the error when testing with Firefox, though? Receiving a "you look like a bot" message when using Chrome configured to pretend to be Firefox isn't very surprising.

I can confirm this on pure (native) FF as well. As someone who has run multiple large web properties this hurts to see. I've observed firsthand the impact of what adding friction to certain browser segments does to utilization, if large corps decide that FF is a "risk" it will do a number on their already struggling traction, and we already live in far too much of a browser monoculture.

(Disclaimer, MSFtie, all opinions are my own)

Re: Firefox appears to be flagged as suspicious by Cloudflare

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We're regressing to a state reminiscent of the dark IE years.

Except back then when you suggested alternative browsers, people were generally receptive once they saw the practical utility of features like tabs. Now when you suggest alternative browsers, people complain about tens of milliseconds more latency and insist on using Chrome for the speed. It's hard to blame them though, since the practical advantages of Firefox are slipping away as Mozilla focuses on more abstract advantages, like privacy, freedom, etc. Noble causes to be sure, reason enough for me to continue using Firefox even if it were a hundred times slower. But I think most people are looking for practical advantages; Firefox usage continues to decline and I don't have much hope for these trends turning around anytime soon.

Re: Firefox appears to be flagged as suspicious by Cloudflare

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I think it's two-fold: rise of tools like curl-impersonate ( https://github.com/lwthiker/curl-impersonate ) and the very consistent Firefox TLS fingerprint across platforms. Unlike Chromium (where you could differentiate a Linux, Mac or Windows computer from its chiphers, and so for example challenge only Linux clients), Firefox has NSS and NSS is used everywhere the Gecko engine is used while Chromium, although has…

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Re: Firefox appears to be flagged as suspicious by Cloudflare

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We're regressing to a state reminiscent of the dark IE years. Except back then when you suggested alternative browsers, people were generally receptive once they saw the practical utility of features like tabs. Now when you suggest alternative browsers, people complain about tens of milliseconds more latency and insist on using Chrome for the speed. It's hard to blame them though, since the practical advantages of Fi…

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Re: Firefox appears to be flagged as suspicious by Cloudflare

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Incredible. I just changed my user-agent whilst on the Google Chrome browser. * Changing to Firefox immediately displayed the Cloudflare error message * Edge had no errors * Chrome had no errors * Safari had no errors Edit: Even internet explorer 9, android kitkat, and the opera browser had no errors. Edit 2: as another user has pointed out, this is most likely a firewall rule put in place by the website operator the…

Do you see the error when testing with Firefox, though? Receiving a "you look like a bot" message when using Chrome configured to pretend to be Firefox isn't very surprising.

I can also confirm this on Firefox. With JS enabled I get the challenge from Cloudflare, and with JS disabled for g2.com, I get:

> Please turn JavaScript on and reload the page.

> DDoS protection by Cloudflare

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