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Steve’s Final “One More Thing…”

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Re: Steve’s Final “One More Thing…”

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Post by pedalpete »

ecito wrote: post #7

I'm probably being short-sighted, but I fail to see what else could you add to a TV that you couldn't already by attaching some device to it.. it's like saying Jobs will revolutionize the computer monitor. It's just a display.

You're right, the 'television' is just a display, but the concept of 'TV' which most of us consider is the entire ecosystem of content, delivery and consumption.

To try to give you some context, think back to 2005, and question 'how can you revolutionize a phone? It's just a speaker and a microphone'. Of course, there had already been inroads into making your phone much more than a phone, just as set-top boxes and other connected devices have added capabilities to your television.

I don't think we'll see a 'rebirth' of television so much as we'll see television joining mobile, tablets and computers in the middle.

Really, the revolution of the phone was making it more like a computer, but more portable. The revolution of the television I suspect will be the same, but less portable. Just like the portability of the phone expanded the things we used our phones for, a less portable large screen product could expose similar capabilities.

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Post by extension »

ecito wrote: post #7

I'm probably being short-sighted, but I fail to see what else could you add to a TV that you couldn't already by attaching some device to it.. it's like saying Jobs will revolutionize the computer monitor. It's just a display.

But Apple did revolutionize the computer monitor, by permanently attaching it to a computer and thus effectvely making it not exist.

Whatever they have in mind for the television will similarly be not about adding things, but about taking things away. They will simplify it in a way that geeks will consider a downgrade while opening up a world of possibilities for mere mortals.

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Post by lparry »

mcantelon wrote: post #9
extension wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, they already have that. The new thing is a complete physical TV, with likely every component and service from end-to-end reimagined and controlled by Apple.

Google and Sony worked together to create integrated "Internet TVs" (which hit the market a year ago) although I don't think they sold well.

well if someone else already tried, I guess there's no point. It's not like Apple has ever entered into a market segment already entered by rivals who are doing poorly and shown them how it's done.

Oh wait, they did that with the iPod. And iPhone. And the iPad.

But you're right, there's no way they do make a successful tv if Google and Sony already tried it and it didnt go well

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Post by unfed »

extension wrote: post #8
unfed wrote: post #3

"There's no money in ebooks cause nobody reads" Yet getting excited for textbooks on ipad? Strange.

People don't buy textbooks because they like to read. They buy them because they are required for their classes. And they can cost thousands of dollars per year. Typically there is one specific text approved for a course, so there is a serious lack of competition. And the publishers will release new editions every year, with trivial changes, to prevent reuse of old books. It's definitely a sketchy industry, in many w…

So you can make more money by focusing solely on textbooks instead of all the books in the world?

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Post by DilipJ »

ecito wrote: post #7

I'm probably being short-sighted, but I fail to see what else could you add to a TV that you couldn't already by attaching some device to it.. it's like saying Jobs will revolutionize the computer monitor. It's just a display.

sure, but the success of the ipad, to me, shows that Apple is now more of a luxury marketer than anything else. People would buy an Apple TV for the same reason people pay more for a BMW. If Apple were to come out with a stylish looking TV, built in DVR and Bluray player, with easy WiFi connectability, and cloud storage of favorite shows/movies, and a streaming service for any movie or tv show you want to watch (which Apple can do with content providers because of its heft), and make it so simple your grandma could do it, then I am confident it would be such a success that their TV unit would become their greatest revenue generator by far.

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Post by chugger »

vph wrote: post #6

>Revolutionizing textbooks may seem a bit ho-hum by Jobs’ standards, but it’s pretty clear that Jobs was passionate about the U.S. education system, and felt this country was falling behind. Oh please, Steve Job showed very little -- if not zero -- passion about the US education system. He was an inventor and entrepreneur. If these guys want to talk about someone who is passionate about the US education system, talk…

Steve Jobs was passionate about education. You need to read more about him.

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Post by DilipJ »

dools wrote: post #17
ecito wrote: post #7

I'm probably being short-sighted, but I fail to see what else could you add to a TV that you couldn't already by attaching some device to it.. it's like saying Jobs will revolutionize the computer monitor. It's just a display.

Touch screen?

No, a touchscreen tv would be horrible. That goes back to the RCA days where you had to get up and go to the tv to change the channels using the knob.

There's nothing wrong with the remote, just that it is starting to get very confusing to use (too many buttons). If Apple can find a way to make the modern remote less complex that would be a step in the right direction.

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