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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else glad the crypto market is crashing?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think the stock market crash was due to a few whales trying to game the market as well? Both fell due to the same effect, people who invested their savings in index funds/crypto now wants top cash out, so they sell.

If you get caught manipulating the stock market you go to prison. Crypto world, not so much.

The manipulation conspiracy is a coping mechanism. The price goes down when a bunch of people are trying to sell their worthless set of bits. There are no more greater fools to offload it onto.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else glad the crypto market is crashing?

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NFTs are basically tulip mania and beanie babies all over again. I've been wondering when it would crash, didn't expect it to happen this quickly. NFTs i mean.

Did anyone actually buy NFTs or was it just a bunch of people saying "this is worth X"?

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else glad the crypto market is crashing?

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Lol, I don't think it's a crash. It's probably most likely 2 or 3 whales that have colluded on a correction and re-purchase strategy. I mean I just don't trust any of it any more. It's more or less completely unregulated (not that the regulated market isn't manipulated too)

Do you think the stock market crash was due to a few whales trying to game the market as well? Both fell due to the same effect, people who invested their savings in index funds/crypto now wants top cash out, so they sell.

S&P total market cap is almost $40 trillion. Btc market cap is about $600 billion. One is completely unregulated and not connected to anything physical. It seems it would be a lot harder for "whales" to crash something like S&P due to its high market cap and regulations.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else glad the crypto market is crashing?

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I’m really excited about it, I do take issue with people still not knowing what parts of crypto aren’t crashing and are working very well. To me that still seems intentional, but at the very least its annoying.

People dont know why “Magic Internet Money” - a stablecoin - is a meta-meme on re-appropriated skepticism of all crypto while being designed decently well, much better than TerraLuna (overcollateralized, compared to "partially collateralized as a last ditch effort that predictably failed"), MIM is holding its benchmark price through this stress test so far.

Same for DAI, which has a similar but older and more convoluted design than MIM, and less native collateral choices.

All while neither of these are perfect. None of these are a model decentralized stablecoin (for those that dont want a central company being able to freeze some funds, but I understand thats a feature for some market participants).

I like that the shakeouts and implosions will cause great discount prices. “Discounts” because many implosions force selling that pushes a price down beyond the rest of the market’s feelings, and when that selling stops (which can be transparently seen), the prices reach back to the level people were willing to pay. A chance I am sometimes willing to take.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else glad the crypto market is crashing?

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While I experience some small schadenfreude over the situation for a wide variety of reasons, my hope is that this will finally bring GPU prices back to some semblance of normalcy. However, this is not my expectation. Partially that is because of continuing supply issues everywhere, but also because now that cryptobros have driven the prices so high we've reached the "that's just what it costs" stage on $1000+ GPUs.

Well, that and perhaps a lot less wasted energy and environmental damage.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else glad the crypto market is crashing?

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I'm glad that a long overdue reality check is coming. But I'm incredibly sad that many, many small fish will lose their entire life's savings in the hours and days and weeks ahead. I've already seen random social media postings of attempted suicides, or talk of it. We will lose actual human beings in this. And, what's worse, is that the real grifters and crooks will walk away clean once again. There isn't enough time…

I blame Congress and the SEC, they’ve had plenty of time to regulate the crypto casino but they have not done so. Now people will suffer.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else glad the crypto market is crashing?

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I'm happy that people are seeing that it's not as uncorrelated with the larger market as people thought, making it less exciting as a hedge. (Of course, we need more data to be really confident in this correlation, but the perception will be there nonetheless.)
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