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Re: MenuetOS

#11

Post by indigodaddy » Sat, May 07, 2022, 2:01 AM UTC

Not really any current processors in the tested hardware list on the site. Would we expect it to work on current Intel/AMD architectures?

Re: MenuetOS

#12

Post by upbeatlinux » Sat, May 07, 2022, 2:15 AM UTC

It blows my mind (in a good way) that people are still posting this to Hacker news. I remember writing code for MenuetOS in both my Operating Systems and Hardware classes in ~2002. Love it!

Re: MenuetOS

#13

Post by atgs » Sat, May 07, 2022, 2:16 AM UTC

I have really fond memories of playing with this sometime around 2005.

I would download as many ISOs as I could get my hands on during the week at one parent’s house (where we had the better PC and broadband) and then at the weekend staying with the other parent I would try out all kinds of linux distros and hobby OSes.

Menuet was incredible to me at the time, it was fast as hell. I played with it for hours and probably would have stuck with it over the crappy Win ‘95 install if not for the fact it basically didn’t have any useful software at the time. It was great fun to tinker with and explore though.

I’ve come across it every few years since and I’m always happy to see it still worked on.

Re: MenuetOS

#14

Post by snvzz » Sat, May 07, 2022, 2:29 AM UTC

Klonoar wrote: post #5

There's a fork of this as well, though I don't know much about why the fork happened or anything: http://kolibrios.org/en/

License. MenuetOS is proprietary. KolibriOS is open source.

Re: MenuetOS

#15

Post by obituary_latte » Sat, May 07, 2022, 2:34 AM UTC

I miss Terry (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TempleOS).

Re: MenuetOS

#16

Post by kingcharles » Sat, May 07, 2022, 2:44 AM UTC

indigodaddy wrote: post #11

Not really any current processors in the tested hardware list on the site. Would we expect it to work on current Intel/AMD architectures?

I would expect it would boot and work fine. Drivers is where most hobby OSes fall down. Your sound card might not work. Or your USB chipset etc. And hobby OSes like this often do a lot of things in software that are available in hardware, which ruins their performance.

Re: MenuetOS

#17

Post by ta988 » Sat, May 07, 2022, 2:58 AM UTC

Oh I'm so glad to see them still alive. I learned a lot with that project close to two decades ago.

Re: MenuetOS

#18

Post by sigzero » Sat, May 07, 2022, 3:15 AM UTC

Klonoar wrote: post #5

There's a fork of this as well, though I don't know much about why the fork happened or anything: http://kolibrios.org/en/

I couldn't find anything about why. It's only the 32bit version it seems. 32bit MenuetOS is GPL but the 64bit is a different license.

Re: MenuetOS

#19

Post by nick__m » Sat, May 07, 2022, 3:23 AM UTC

The reported audio latency, in the release note, is incredible:

  05.05.2022  1.42.20  Below millisecond audio latency (intelhda,audio.asm)
                     - 0.083 msec @ 192 khz, 24 bit (playback)
                     - 0.667 msec @ 48 khz, 16 bit (record)

Re: MenuetOS

#20

Post by Sirened » Sat, May 07, 2022, 3:26 AM UTC

Always love hobby operating systems which leave UNIX and POSIX behind. It's really a shame that we're slowly converging on POSIX being the basis of _all_ operating systems since it forces some bizarre and undesirable design decisions [1]. Dropping POSIX and building something new gives us a chance to actually explore novel ideas in operating systems design.

[1] https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/uploads/prod/2019/0...