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When I tell the Windows Terminal team something is simple, I am "misguided"

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Re: When I tell the Windows Terminal team something is simple, I am "misguided"

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Post by yakubin »

h2odragon wrote: post #2

if it was an open project the narrative would be "reaction to the suggestion was mixed; then it was adopted." Its not like Microsoft is a singular mind here; the poor slobs working there do not deserve to be tarred with all the sins of that name, and vice versa. That said, why suggest anything to Microsoft? I no longer advocate for the dissolution of the company and torment of its employees with the fervor i used to,…

> Its not like Microsoft is a singular mind here

The author of the blog post is the author of the second comment on GitHub. Also[1]:

> Afterward, the same dev also used a fake name to hang out on our discord and talk about Windows Terminal without telling anyone who he was. I figured it out and confronted them, and they failed to see anything wrong with that behavior. It's a really special team they have there.

[1]: https://nitter.net/cmuratori/status/1522471966929653761>

Re: When I tell the Windows Terminal team something is simple, I am "misguided"

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Post by jeroenhd »

Looks like Microsoft finally found someone good enough at terminal emulator development to fix the performance issues.

I can't shake the feeling that the original Github issue and the heated discussions in there were more Windows Terminal devs not wanting to admit their knowledge gap in this area than impracticality and complexity.

Re: When I tell the Windows Terminal team something is simple, I am "misguided"

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Post by royjacobs »

tubs wrote: post #5

Pretty sure the "trivial" in the blog post is sarcastic, or at least slightly self depracating.

It's not a great look to open a blog post with sarcastic comments referring to (unneeded) controversy, though. Regardless if you were right or wrong.

Re: When I tell the Windows Terminal team something is simple, I am "misguided"

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Post by jtbayly »

tubs wrote: post #5

Pretty sure the "trivial" in the blog post is sarcastic, or at least slightly self depracating.

The "trivial" solution doesn't work. And they thus had to do the non-trivial thing and write their own custom text renderer.

If I'm right in my reading, the author of the tweet is wrong to complain about them saying it's "trivial," because they never did.

Re: When I tell the Windows Terminal team something is simple, I am "misguided"

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Post by yardie »

blagie wrote: post #7
h2odragon wrote: post #2

if it was an open project the narrative would be "reaction to the suggestion was mixed; then it was adopted." Its not like Microsoft is a singular mind here; the poor slobs working there do not deserve to be tarred with all the sins of that name, and vice versa. That said, why suggest anything to Microsoft? I no longer advocate for the dissolution of the company and torment of its employees with the fervor i used to,…

1) 1980-2000 Microsoft was evil. I find 2022 Microsoft to be ahead of Google and Facebook on the ethics front, so YMMV. Microsoft doesn't do much antitrust anymore, is /more/ respectful of privacy than most of the tech industry, and by some measures, is the world's largest contributor to the open source collective. Tools like Visual Studio Code are pretty good too, and run on GNU/Linux. 2) Even with evil companies, c…

> is /more/ respectful of privacy than most of the tech industry,

I see you haven't used the new, privacy busting Windows 11 OS, yet?

Re: When I tell the Windows Terminal team something is simple, I am "misguided"

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Post by [deleted] »

rrdharan wrote: post #9
blagie wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1) 1980-2000 Microsoft was evil. I find 2022 Microsoft to be ahead of Google and Facebook on the ethics front, so YMMV. Microsoft doesn't do much antitrust anymore, is /more/ respectful of privacy than most of the tech industry, and by some measures, is the world's largest contributor to the open source collective. Tools like Visual Studio Code are pretty good too, and run on GNU/Linux. 2) Even with evil companies, c…

> is /more/ respectful of privacy than most of the tech industry How do you figure? They own Bing and Windows 1x is full of mandatory telemetry.

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Re: When I tell the Windows Terminal team something is simple, I am "misguided"

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Post by oneepic »

deburo wrote: post #12

I blame the disagreement on online communications. Can you imagine this conflict lasting this long if these guys had been talking about it in person over coffee? They would probably behave with much more restraint and respect for each other.

Even in 2022, having worked there, I guarantee that the Microsoft org chart meme [0] is still true. I do agree in-person talking would have helped.

[0] https://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2907963/microsoftguns.jpg

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