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The original “Bambi”

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Re: The original “Bambi”

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I've watched "Watership Down" as a child. It's one of my more vivid memories from back then to put it mildly.

Watership Down and the Secret of Nimh were my two favorite movies as a young child in the early 80s, followed closely by the Dark Crystal and maybe Aristocats and the Black Hole.

Other movies of the time like the Rescuers and the Fox and the Hound and Labyrinth and such were a disappointment compared to these...

Re: The original “Bambi”

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I’ve grown watching „The Animals of Farthing Wood” (1993 cartoon). It has episode showing family of mice struggling to survive and worried about future for their babies. In following episode we get shot of same mice family impaled on needles by birds going to eat them. https://www.wykop.pl/cdn/c3201142/comment_EkpfJKfyX8WRKQnr7H... Entire story is told around forest dying out and animals struggling to survive in it.…

> It was once called „that animals cartoon that traumatised generations”.

Although I can imagine this being quite horrific, I also don't recall that this cartoon was all that upsetting me when I watched it as a child. Then again I grew up in the countryside so maybe it was less shocking to me because I already knew what nature was like. When it comes to animal cartoons I think Watership Down and The Plague Dogs were much worse experiences.

Still, kind of makes me wonder what's up with the UK and depressing animal cartoons.

Re: The original “Bambi”

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I've watched "Watership Down" as a child. It's one of my more vivid memories from back then to put it mildly.

I read the book as a kid in the 70's, the same decade that all the fun stuff like Mutually Assured Destruction was an ongoing thing. I seem to remember being fairly distressed and mentally exhausted by the end of it. However the upside was becoming aware of how humans were slowly and inexorably ruining our planet.

Re: The original “Bambi”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been split on this. On the one hand it is a bit unpleasant and can be traumatizing, and we tend to shy away from unpleasant things, but on the other hand lots of generations grew up on Grimm's Fairy Tales and Hans Christian Andersen fairy tales and learned a bit about how difficult life can be and the consequences of moral failings or lack of hard work. It is important to prepare children for the fact that life…

Life will give those hard lessons out for free - why build a curriculum for it?

> Life will give those hard lessons out for free

Does it?

Re: The original “Bambi”

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Yes, Bambi is an utterly depressing story. Most original material Disney adapted was bleakier and more grisly than the adaptation. Most of the tales collected by brothers Grimm would today be horror stories. (Did you know that Cinderella's evil stepsisters had their toes and heels cut off so they could fit in the slippers? Or that the ravens pecked their eyes as punishment? Or that Maleficent ends up in a boiling cau…

For Cinderella, the story also existed in an older version told by Perrault, which is way less bleak than Grimm's tale. Especially as the Disney adaptation is closer to Perrault's tale (cf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinderella#Cendrillon_ou_la_pe...)

Re: The original “Bambi”

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I've watched "Watership Down" as a child. It's one of my more vivid memories from back then to put it mildly.

Watership Down and the Secret of Nimh were my two favorite movies as a young child in the early 80s, followed closely by the Dark Crystal and maybe Aristocats and the Black Hole. Other movies of the time like the Rescuers and the Fox and the Hound and Labyrinth and such were a disappointment compared to these...

I've been curious about the Dark Crystal - was it particularly groundbreaking when it came out? I watched it after watching the more recent Netflix series and found the story pretty dreary.

Similarly, I've heard Tron was almost revolutionary by the standards of the day, but the CGI is almost comical to watch now.

Re: The original “Bambi”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been split on this. On the one hand it is a bit unpleasant and can be traumatizing, and we tend to shy away from unpleasant things, but on the other hand lots of generations grew up on Grimm's Fairy Tales and Hans Christian Andersen fairy tales and learned a bit about how difficult life can be and the consequences of moral failings or lack of hard work. It is important to prepare children for the fact that life…

> learned a bit about how difficult life can be and the consequences of moral failings or lack of hard work I don't remember anything about consequences of moral failings in the old fairy tales, just random violence and chaos. In Sleeping Beauty the prince's mother turns out to be an ogre who tries to eat Beauty's children, but luckily the prince returns in time and kills her. Where's the moral lesson there? Don't mo…

The same thing most poor kids learn growing up: Just because someone looks and speaks nicely or is nice to you doesn't tell you anything meaningful about them. And it can be a fatal mistake to not be careful.

The old stories were designed to help prepare children for the hostile world they lived in.

Re: The original “Bambi”

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Watership Down and the Secret of Nimh were my two favorite movies as a young child in the early 80s, followed closely by the Dark Crystal and maybe Aristocats and the Black Hole. Other movies of the time like the Rescuers and the Fox and the Hound and Labyrinth and such were a disappointment compared to these...

I've been curious about the Dark Crystal - was it particularly groundbreaking when it came out? I watched it after watching the more recent Netflix series and found the story pretty dreary. Similarly, I've heard Tron was almost revolutionary by the standards of the day, but the CGI is almost comical to watch now.

Both were groundbreaking and revolutionary. They were very ambitious projects due to the technology limitations of the time, and crossed well into the "labour of love" realm, in the same vein as Pinnochio (for example the animated bubbles in the crashing waves).

Re: The original “Bambi”

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I've watched "Watership Down" as a child. It's one of my more vivid memories from back then to put it mildly.

I read the book as a kid in the 70's, the same decade that all the fun stuff like Mutually Assured Destruction was an ongoing thing. I seem to remember being fairly distressed and mentally exhausted by the end of it. However the upside was becoming aware of how humans were slowly and inexorably ruining our planet.

Agreed. It was a great lesson and if anything affected my development in a positive way.

Re: The original “Bambi”

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It wasn't the first horror film my children saw (they watched Jaws, Alien, and Stranger Things) but the most terrifying and traumatic experience they've seen was the shipwreck scene in the Black Stallion. If you want to frighten children, murder what they love while they watch: their parents and animals.

Coincidence both Bambi and the Black Stallion were written during or in the immediate aftermath of world wars?

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