This is one of those studies where the conclusion is so obviously wrong that I don't even want to open it, and it makes me discount the credibility of Nature overall.
Study of pet dogs shows breed does not predict behaviour
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Re: Study of pet dogs shows breed does not predict behaviour
#12Isn't this study flawed because they asked people to report on their dog's behavior? When I talk to other dog owners, they discuss the dog with respect to their perceived breed standard, "Oh, Kelly is much more calm than I expected from a Rotty" or "Joy is pretty dumb for a Collie." If they somehow got neutral observers that would be much more persuasive, in my mind.
Exactly right.
Re: Study of pet dogs shows breed does not predict behaviour
#13This is one of those studies where the conclusion is so obviously wrong that I don't even want to open it, and it makes me discount the credibility of Nature overall.
On top of that it was published in Science. I'm completely stumped.
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#14Stats that reveal breeds like pitbulls causing the majority of attacks seem to contradict this, no?
There's a subreddit that campaigns on the issue. The research page has a link to lots of studies, most from respectable publications, which are really damning: https://old.reddit.com/r/BanPitBulls/wiki/research
Re: Study of pet dogs shows breed does not predict behaviour
#15This is one of those studies where the conclusion is so obviously wrong that I don't even want to open it, and it makes me discount the credibility of Nature overall.
The conclusion I would draw is that dog owners are unable to objectively analyse their pets behaviour.
Re: Study of pet dogs shows breed does not predict behaviour
#16Isn't this study flawed because they asked people to report on their dog's behavior? When I talk to other dog owners, they discuss the dog with respect to their perceived breed standard, "Oh, Kelly is much more calm than I expected from a Rotty" or "Joy is pretty dumb for a Collie." If they somehow got neutral observers that would be much more persuasive, in my mind.
Exactly right.
I can only assume some pitbull/Rottweiler owner group paid for this publication.
Re: Study of pet dogs shows breed does not predict behaviour
#17This is such a weird turn in new science.
For hundreds of years folks breed dogs for various traits. Labs are friendly (and not great guard dogs). Greyhounds can run fast and like to chase. Pitbulls can use their strong bite and a shake behavior to devastating effect. And the list goes on.
Now we have nature coming out with a study that shows breed does NOT predict behavior?
What's interesting is I'm not sure some breeds can even mechanically behave in certain ways. Can miniature poodles even hamstring you if they wanted to?
Science has taken a lot of hits recently with some of the covid stuff. This type of scientific conclusion is going to risk some more damage to folks faith in science (or at least in the accuracy of reporting on science).
Re: Study of pet dogs shows breed does not predict behaviour
#18Stats that reveal breeds like pitbulls causing the majority of attacks seem to contradict this, no?
No? It just means people teach pitbulls to attack other people.
Ban pitbulls and those people will teach some other breed to attack.
Re: Study of pet dogs shows breed does not predict behaviour
#19Stats that reveal breeds like pitbulls causing the majority of attacks seem to contradict this, no?
https://data.cityofnewyork.us/Health/DOHMH-Dog-Bite-Data/rsg...
Followed (not too closely) by Shih Tzu and Chihuahua which are...a little less life threatening. This is just raw data and obviously not controlling for population.
Re: Study of pet dogs shows breed does not predict behaviour
#20This is one of those studies where the conclusion is so obviously wrong that I don't even want to open it, and it makes me discount the credibility of Nature overall.
On top of that it was published in Science. I'm completely stumped.
I'm not going to spell it out because it's one of those observations that's taboo even here, but it's pretty obvious why in the prevailing political climate this piece would get published in prestigious journals and a piece finding otherwise would not.