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Mental illness, attention deficit disorder, and suffering

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Re: Mental illness, attention deficit disorder, and suffering

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> For me the ADD really is a part of my identity — not my persona, which is what I present to the world, but my innermost self, the way I am actually am. I would be a different person without it. I might be a better person, or a happier or more successful one (I don't know) but I'd definitely be someone different. There's a lot of modern discourse around "identity". My view is that the only healthy conception of your…

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I have ADHD (ADD), and was diagnosed after 30 - though I've greatly suffered from it since my teenage years. Sure, it is a big part of me, always has been, but I don't really make it part of my identity. I can't control it like a superpower, and there are serious consequences if you're not careful. I've noticed that in the ADHD community, there are some very vocal people that will wear the diagnosis with pride. I mea…

Similar. I don’t understand wearing it with pride. There is no pride in it. It’s not an accomplishment. When people do this, it looks like a pre-emotive cop-out. “I’m saying to everyone I have ADHD so that if something goes wrong, I have something to blame and can also blame you if you are the authority for not giving me a pass”.

Re: Mental illness, attention deficit disorder, and suffering

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I have ADHD (ADD), and was diagnosed after 30 - though I've greatly suffered from it since my teenage years. Sure, it is a big part of me, always has been, but I don't really make it part of my identity. I can't control it like a superpower, and there are serious consequences if you're not careful. I've noticed that in the ADHD community, there are some very vocal people that will wear the diagnosis with pride. I mea…

Funnily enough people used to be proud of having gout - the disease of aristocrats.

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The part I hate most today is that if you relate to a video on ADHD/DID/Depression/Schizophrenia/etc, you will be fed the content until you convince yourself you have a “character trait”. That’s a serious problem with long term effects on society.

I’m very sure I sit somewhere on the spectrum and have depressive disorder markers as well. But the last thing I want to do is to promote these traits. I am not proud of them nor hiding them. They do make me unique. But that’s my business, not the world’s.

What worries me is how easy it is to get diagnosed. TikTok for example will also show you ads for a simple single click ADHD diagnosis and medication plan. Almost as if it’s being handed out like candy.

I found tranquility by looking inward for answers, not outward. I go on my “mental health” walks/runs. I even have taught myself to be mindful enough to notice when platforms like TikTok are emotionally manipulating you and I’ll be half crying while coming to a realization that this keeps me addicted. As I separate myself more from tech and to more nature in the world, these “character traits” don’t seem to be so defining anymore. It’s just a personal observation I’ve made as screen time declines.

Re: Mental illness, attention deficit disorder, and suffering

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Medicated AD(H)D of Hacker News, did your medication (please specify) influence your personality? If so how?

Daily 20 hour water (& salt) fasting reduced my desire to jump between tasks. Less scatter-brained too. My thoughts stay on rails longer. Didn't change my diet much; I don't eat many refined foods or carbs other than occasional bread.

Years ago in college I was prescribed Adderall but it didn't make me focus more. It made me compulsively clean my apartment, masturbate, tweak out, and occasionally be extremely paranoid of being attacked while on public transit. I was ready to rip someone's head off. I discourage using this medication.

If you haven't reduced carb intake to a bare minimum I suggest maintaining it first for a month before looking for more help.

Re: Mental illness, attention deficit disorder, and suffering

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The author really does not do a great job, here, at least in saying something sensible as a response to DeBoer's piece. The core premise seems to be that:

> I find it so very irritating that there is no term for my so-called ⸢attention deficit disorder⸣ that does not have the word “disorder” baked into it. I know what a disorder is, and this isn't one.

But the author then argues against a strawman:

> Why does any deviation from the standard have to be a disorder? Why do we medicalize human variation?

It doesn't, and in fact, the diagnostic criteria for ADHD and many other disorders require that the deviation amount to a disorder rather than not interfering with someone's life.

What the author really seems to be criticizing is that he learned and began identifying with the medical term for a disorder ("the ADD really is a part of my identity") and now he'd like a different way to describe his experience.

Fair! But get the cause-and-effect the right way around: we don't need to "stop labeling every difference as a disorder," we need to not adopt diagnostic terms and apply them to ourselves inappropriately. That's a part of what DeBoer is criticizing—that people self-diagnose and then "perform their various personalities."

To be clear, I agree with the author that it would help to have terminology for people who don't feel negatively impacted by their brains being different in a way that we can label, not just for those who do. Maybe the author could get started with that by dropping the "disorder" bit and just identifying himself as someone with an attention deficit.

Re: Mental illness, attention deficit disorder, and suffering

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I have ADHD (ADD), and was diagnosed after 30 - though I've greatly suffered from it since my teenage years. Sure, it is a big part of me, always has been, but I don't really make it part of my identity. I can't control it like a superpower, and there are serious consequences if you're not careful. I've noticed that in the ADHD community, there are some very vocal people that will wear the diagnosis with pride. I mea…

I agree. My adhd has never made me more able than anyone, but has certainly been a detriment to myself and those around me. The best I can do is not hate myself for what I evidently can’t control, and continue working to lessen the damage it does. I mean, I was diagnosed because it’s a problem. Not because I have super powers.

I think the idea of wearing it as a badge of pride is because that reflex is easier than being more honest and introspective. At the same time it might help soften the pain. If you have a disability, you are a strain on those around you. You shouldn’t be ashamed of it, but you shouldn’t be prideful either. You should be proud when you succeed against the odds and you know it took hard work, but that’s not adhd happening.

For a brief time I entertained that I should be more adhd positive. Ultimately I realized that bias is not helpful at all if it clouds my perception of how it impacts my life or those around me. For some people though, perhaps it helps lessen the burden of the common self-loathing that tends to manifest as sufferers age.

Re: Mental illness, attention deficit disorder, and suffering

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I have ADHD (ADD), and was diagnosed after 30 - though I've greatly suffered from it since my teenage years. Sure, it is a big part of me, always has been, but I don't really make it part of my identity. I can't control it like a superpower, and there are serious consequences if you're not careful. I've noticed that in the ADHD community, there are some very vocal people that will wear the diagnosis with pride. I mea…

Personally I don't like seeing it as a regular illness. Yes it's a complication to how society wants people to function. Work 8 hours a day 5 days a week. Go to school 6 hours a day 5 days a week. Be productive in that time frame. Keep focus on given tasks.

You can take medication to adhere to these artificial expectations on how an individual should function within society. Or you can live in a way that matches your natural behavior and capabilities.

Granted, we sometimes cannot avoid having to function in the expected way so medication is helpful. But seeing it as an illness that one needs to constantly surpress just doesn't sound right to me.

It's part of my personality. I'm not proud of it. But I also certainly don't see it as something that needs to be constantly treated.

Re: Mental illness, attention deficit disorder, and suffering

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The diagnostic criteria for mental illness is, to simplify, that an aspect of your mind causes significant problems. If it doesn’t, as the author’s attention seems not to, then you probably shouldn’t be diagnosed with the disorder. Comparing yourself, when you have mild characteristics in common with a diagnosis and then saying it’s not so bad is perhaps not so helpful to those who do struggle with it.

Are you implying that the author did not get a professional diagnosis and is merely comparing himself to people who have ADHD?

When I was diagnosed with ADHD, the disorder did cause me significant problems. Over the years I have managed to do a lot better, where I can now relate to the state the author is in (just the ADHD part, I do not suffer from depression).

I would now say it’s not so bad too.

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