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Four months with Android (An iOS user's exploration)

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Re: Four months with Android (An iOS user's exploration)

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Post by jwcacces »

mikeash wrote: post #5
llgrrl_ wrote: post #2

When I read "It's all about the feel," I imediatelly realized why he didn't get why people like Android. If he likes the feel, then nothing beats Apple. But I do use it for different purposes. I need a physical keyboard. I need to ssh to my server when I need to. I need google talk. That's why I use Android.

A physical keyboard is certainly a great reason to use Android, but I'm curious, what about ssh or gtalk requires it?

They're all separate needs. The point is on Android you have those options.

Re: Four months with Android (An iOS user's exploration)

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Post by wccrawford »

I went Android because there's no need to jailbreak the phone to install third-party, and I'm a programmer. I don't have to pay $99/yr to program for it, or own a computer that runs one particular operating system.

I'll admit that for a long time, the iPhone experience was way better than Android. And the browser and media functionality are still horrible. And the games... -sigh-

But in general, I love the Android experience. On the newer phones (much newer than Nexus S) the lag is gone. The only lag left is the same as the iPhone: Launching apps. Apps generally behave in ways that I like. (Notifications, interoperability, etc.)

Re: Four months with Android (An iOS user's exploration)

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Post by woobar »

llgrrl_ wrote: post #2

When I read "It's all about the feel," I imediatelly realized why he didn't get why people like Android. If he likes the feel, then nothing beats Apple. But I do use it for different purposes. I need a physical keyboard. I need to ssh to my server when I need to. I need google talk. That's why I use Android.

The point about physical keyboard is valid. But do you believe that there are no ssh or GT clients for iOS?

Re: Four months with Android (An iOS user's exploration)

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Post by nextparadigms »

So his logic is that if Android started as a rip-off of iOS, then you shouldn't use it even if it becomes better than the original? There are a lot of improvements coming in Android 4.0, too. I think they will make the improvements in iOS 5 look marginal in comparison.

Re: Four months with Android (An iOS user's exploration)

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Post by freemarketteddy »

wccrawford wrote: post #12

I went Android because there's no need to jailbreak the phone to install third-party, and I'm a programmer. I don't have to pay $99/yr to program for it, or own a computer that runs one particular operating system. I'll admit that for a long time, the iPhone experience was way better than Android. And the browser and media functionality are still horrible. And the games... -sigh- But in general, I love the Android ex…

man trust me...the art of jailbreaking and playing with Saurik's mobile substrate to plug in code into apps is some serious fun!

Re: Four months with Android (An iOS user's exploration)

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Post by nextparadigms »

stupandaus wrote: post #3

Your question of who the Android is meant for has a very simple answer. It's designed for people who want a smartphone, but aren't willing or capable of spending enough for an iPhone. Also Apple haters as noted.

You do realize people pay just as much for high-end Android phones as others do for iPhones, don't you?

Re: Four months with Android (An iOS user's exploration)

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Post by freemarketteddy »

I played with ListActivity for about two days....The experience was so bad when compared to UITableView that I instantly quit android dev and am back to iOS.

Afterall as developers what we really want is to give all our users a really awesome experience....I am sorry to say this but in terms of the ability to make something awesome (as an individual developer) that users will love to play with, Android does not hold a candle to iOS.

Re: Four months with Android (An iOS user's exploration)

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Post by darrylb42 »

jwcacces wrote: post #8

You want to be taken seriously, and the first thing you say is that "Android exists because it is a rip off of iOS"? Even if it was true, you've set the tone for your whole article as non-objective and fanboyish. Creating a product, like creating artwork, is a process that interacts with the whole industry. You see what others did, and you try to do better. Others see what you do and they try to do better. Lets not e…

When the first iPhone came out, I thought marginal improvement over the Motorola Minq that I had for 2 years already. A Linux based phone before its time.

Re: Four months with Android (An iOS user's exploration)

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Post by jshen »

llgrrl_ wrote: post #10
mikeash wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A physical keyboard is certainly a great reason to use Android, but I'm curious, what about ssh or gtalk requires it?

The way Gtalk client deals with unreliable connections is perfect. I don't have a 3G plan so I often walk around my campus roaming from one hotspot to another. It doesn't use the regular jabber of you notice. Also SSH without a physical keyboard is gonna be a pain in the back.

i do SSH from my ipad all the time without much pain. I have an android phone and hate the ssh apps mainly because the text is tiny. What ssh app do you use on android?
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