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Re: Apple Reports Second Quarter Results

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Post by lbotos »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #9
ghaff wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One has to assume that the ultimate direction is for some sort of convergence of iPad and MacBook. But no one at Apple has figured a good way to do that which isn't a fatal compromise. I use my iPad but it's a pretty optional device for me and I mostly use it when traveling. (I admittedly can't draw to save my life and I really want to get back on a computer pretty quickly when I'm doing things like searching.

> one has to assume that the ultimate direction is for some sort of convergence of iPad and MacBook Why?

I mean, they are building their own processors now, and both the macbook and the iPad have the same processor. Why maintain two operating systems if one could work. I say that because obviously there are differences with iOS and MacOS, but apple controls both.

Re: Apple Reports Second Quarter Results

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Post by idoh »

oumua_don17 wrote: post #7
idoh wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It has the ambition, agree that they haven't figured it out yet. I think that it just might be a hard problem to figure out. I have an iPhone, an iPad, and a MacBook. I really understand when I want to use the phone or the notebook computer. The iPad is sort of in the middle. I have made attempts at doing all my work stuff on it, but failed every time. Simple things like taking a screenshot over here and pasting it o…

When combined with Apple Pencil it’s the best digital note taking device. I hardly need to use pen and paper any more. Note taking, reading books and watching videos, playing board games makes it’s a fun and work device. YMMV.

Yeah, maybe I'm doing it wrong. Don't try to do everything on it, just use it for when you would want to sketch things out and don't look back. This comment inspired me to plug in my pencil and try it out for that.

Re: Apple Reports Second Quarter Results

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Post by zitterbewegung »

lvl102 wrote: post #6

I am simply amazed by how much money this company makes. Nice boost to Mac business with the new Macbook Pros selling like hotcakes and OOS constantly.

They are worth it. Nearly every complaint was addressed in the new MacBooks Pros and I feel like its a return to form for the company. The only downsides I can really see is that Wifi on the laptop should have been 6E and the SD Card should have been SD Express but it seems like it was that way due to the length it took being engineered (which isn't an excuse).

Re: Apple Reports Second Quarter Results

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Post by sq_ »

idoh wrote: post #4
galogon wrote: post #2

The Watch, Mac and iPhone are doing great but the iPad lacks ambition and doesn't seem to have a direction. Who is in charge of the iPad division at Apple?

It has the ambition, agree that they haven't figured it out yet. I think that it just might be a hard problem to figure out. I have an iPhone, an iPad, and a MacBook. I really understand when I want to use the phone or the notebook computer. The iPad is sort of in the middle. I have made attempts at doing all my work stuff on it, but failed every time. Simple things like taking a screenshot over here and pasting it o…

> I really understand when I want to use the phone or the notebook computer. The iPad is sort of in the middle.

I'd never seen it put that way before, but I think it hits the nail right on the head for me. I do like my 2020 iPad Air when I use it, and the pencil is great; however, I basically end up using it as easy scratch paper or when copy-pastable handwriting is useful. Plus when I need an extra screen to go with my laptop.

It definitely has nice features, but doesn't feel like a compelling use-case overall, yet.

Re: Apple Reports Second Quarter Results

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Post by ghaff »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #9
ghaff wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One has to assume that the ultimate direction is for some sort of convergence of iPad and MacBook. But no one at Apple has figured a good way to do that which isn't a fatal compromise. I use my iPad but it's a pretty optional device for me and I mostly use it when traveling. (I admittedly can't draw to save my life and I really want to get back on a computer pretty quickly when I'm doing things like searching.

> one has to assume that the ultimate direction is for some sort of convergence of iPad and MacBook Why?

Because, for example, I'd prefer to travel with a single device and the MacBook is better than the iPad at certain things and vice versa. It's not that big an imposition to take two devices to be sure--and I'm sure Apple doesn't mind the extra sales. And I can mostly sub my phone and maybe a Kindle if I'm trying to go light. But it feels as if there's the potential for a unified device someday there--if it can be without compromises.

Re: Apple Reports Second Quarter Results

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Post by reducesuffering »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #9
ghaff wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One has to assume that the ultimate direction is for some sort of convergence of iPad and MacBook. But no one at Apple has figured a good way to do that which isn't a fatal compromise. I use my iPad but it's a pretty optional device for me and I mostly use it when traveling. (I admittedly can't draw to save my life and I really want to get back on a computer pretty quickly when I'm doing things like searching.

> one has to assume that the ultimate direction is for some sort of convergence of iPad and MacBook Why?

The trajectory is obvious, and includes iPhone. You don't need three different chips, just different interfaces. One unified computing and storage general purpose computer, available via mobile, audio (Airpods), visual (AR), large UI (Macbook / Mac), health (Watch), etc. They're already unifying under M1 / ARM.

Re: Apple Reports Second Quarter Results

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Post by threeseed »

usaphp wrote: post #15

I've ordered a new macbook 14" in early March, my delivery date slipped twice already, now it says it's going to be delivered in July. I wonder how much more money would they make if not for supply issues.

Same issue with the Studio Display.

In most countries the backlog is 1-2 months away.

Re: Apple Reports Second Quarter Results

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Post by lvl102 »

zitterbewegung wrote: post #13
lvl102 wrote: post #6

I am simply amazed by how much money this company makes. Nice boost to Mac business with the new Macbook Pros selling like hotcakes and OOS constantly.

They are worth it. Nearly every complaint was addressed in the new MacBooks Pros and I feel like its a return to form for the company. The only downsides I can really see is that Wifi on the laptop should have been 6E and the SD Card should have been SD Express but it seems like it was that way due to the length it took being engineered (which isn't an excuse).

My only gripe is the lack of USB-A to make it truly dongle free.
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