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What is a molten salt reactor?

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Re: What is a molten salt reactor?

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A molten salt reactor is, first and foremost, a distraction . By the time any production molten-salt reactor design could get proved out and the first commercial one built, renewables + storage will be providing all our power for much less money than it ever could. But we can waste a lot of $billions on it that could instead go to build out a hell of a lot of panels and wind turbines.

Or water cooled reactors!

One or two, anyway. Eventually, if not cancelled.

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A molten salt reactor is, first and foremost, a distraction . By the time any production molten-salt reactor design could get proved out and the first commercial one built, renewables + storage will be providing all our power for much less money than it ever could. But we can waste a lot of $billions on it that could instead go to build out a hell of a lot of panels and wind turbines.

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A molten salt reactor is, first and foremost, a distraction . By the time any production molten-salt reactor design could get proved out and the first commercial one built, renewables + storage will be providing all our power for much less money than it ever could. But we can waste a lot of $billions on it that could instead go to build out a hell of a lot of panels and wind turbines.

There are countries where neither solar nor wind are a viable options.

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post #13
post #5

A molten salt reactor is, first and foremost, a distraction . By the time any production molten-salt reactor design could get proved out and the first commercial one built, renewables + storage will be providing all our power for much less money than it ever could. But we can waste a lot of $billions on it that could instead go to build out a hell of a lot of panels and wind turbines.

There are countries where neither solar nor wind are a viable options.

Not many people live in such regions. And building enough solar and wind for the billions of people who do live in the good locations for it will drastically reduce the price of energy due to scale.

This will effectively render the issue moot, the few people in those regions could burn fossils and it wouldn't really matter. But it would be cheaper for them to import green energy.

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post #13
post #5

A molten salt reactor is, first and foremost, a distraction . By the time any production molten-salt reactor design could get proved out and the first commercial one built, renewables + storage will be providing all our power for much less money than it ever could. But we can waste a lot of $billions on it that could instead go to build out a hell of a lot of panels and wind turbines.

There are countries where neither solar nor wind are a viable options.

They can ship in synthetic ammonia from the tropics to burn, as they do oil and gas now, or get power via transmission lines and synthesize and bank it locally; or some of both.

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There are countries where neither solar nor wind are a viable options.

Not many people live in such regions. And building enough solar and wind for the billions of people who do live in the good locations for it will drastically reduce the price of energy due to scale. This will effectively render the issue moot, the few people in those regions could burn fossils and it wouldn't really matter. But it would be cheaper for them to import green energy.

Millions of people live in such regions and importing energy also creates issues that are visible in the events today.

Re: What is a molten salt reactor?

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post #5

A molten salt reactor is, first and foremost, a distraction . By the time any production molten-salt reactor design could get proved out and the first commercial one built, renewables + storage will be providing all our power for much less money than it ever could. But we can waste a lot of $billions on it that could instead go to build out a hell of a lot of panels and wind turbines.

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Yet, they really do, and are not.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not many people live in such regions. And building enough solar and wind for the billions of people who do live in the good locations for it will drastically reduce the price of energy due to scale. This will effectively render the issue moot, the few people in those regions could burn fossils and it wouldn't really matter. But it would be cheaper for them to import green energy.

Millions of people live in such regions and importing energy also creates issues that are visible in the events today.

There are not enough of them to be a big problem. Numbers matter.

They are importing fuel now, and may continue. In the future the fuel they import will be cheaper if synthetic. Or they may rely more on transmission lines, and stockpile synthetic fuel for backup in case of outages.

People everywhere will do what works best for them where they are. As synthetic fuel cost drops below extracted and refined hydrocarbons, people will simply stop buying the latter. Forward-looking sunny tropical countries will do well exporting synthetic fuel to places where the wind or sun flags.

Re: What is a molten salt reactor?

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This boldly claims that molten salt reactors are safe, but my understanding is that these systems require carefully engineered coatings to function and that in practice every such system has leaked liquid sodium. The statement may be essentially true kind of like saying elevators are safe, but there is still room for risk analysis and expectation of occasional failures.

Re: What is a molten salt reactor?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Millions of people live in such regions and importing energy also creates issues that are visible in the events today.

There are not enough of them to be a big problem. Numbers matter. They are importing fuel now , and may continue. In the future the fuel they import will be cheaper if synthetic. Or they may rely more on transmission lines, and stockpile synthetic fuel for backup in case of outages. People everywhere will do what works best for them where they are. As synthetic fuel cost drops below extracted and refined hydrocarbons…

What's an example of a synthetic fuel suitable for this purpose? I wouldn't call methane synthetic, for example.
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