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Why companies move off Heroku (besides the cost)

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Re: Why companies move off Heroku (besides the cost)

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Not having any sort of basic disk/storage solution has been painful for us. There's been a lot of situations where I would love to store a big blob of data on the disk while processing it but if that Heroku dyno reboots - poof, its gone.

What kind of workflow are you trying to fit?

My impression is that this lack of 'instance storage' is by design, as well as other constraints that can be mapped to these: https://12factor.net/

Re: Why companies move off Heroku (besides the cost)

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post #10

Not having any sort of basic disk/storage solution has been painful for us. There's been a lot of situations where I would love to store a big blob of data on the disk while processing it but if that Heroku dyno reboots - poof, its gone.

Boy howdy do I agree with this. Filesystems are immensely handy. We (a sometimes competitor of Heroku) shipped persistent volumes very early and it's been amazingly empowering. The DX gets difficult, but we're ironing that out over time

Re: Why companies move off Heroku (besides the cost)

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I'm at a small startup (about 8 engineers) and for the most part Heroku has been a great solution for a team of our size.

However, the recent github incident was a major PITA for us, and has us seriously considering leaving the platform for the first time. We're still working on getting all of our automated deployments back up and running.

In addition, we had just put in some work to start using the Review Apps feature, which now seems to be gone for the foreseeable future.

Re: Why companies move off Heroku (besides the cost)

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I took a few minutes to scan Porter's website. They have a free tier. But when I read the getting started documentation, it says that I have to provision everything in my existing cloud infrastructure (e.g.; AWS). So I'm paying for the services in AWS. It seems I got lost in the story. Porter doesn't immediately feel like a replacement for Heroku.

Re: Why companies move off Heroku (besides the cost)

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I'm historically a huge Heroku defender. Been using it for a decade now, and my company still uses it despite being quite large and getting a lot of traffic. It's always been a great product and the early Salesforce days they DID ship a ton of new stuff and improve rapidly (despite a narrative that they didn't). Like, it got REALLY GOOD the years after acquisition.

That being said... it's insane that we haven't been able to deploy for over two weeks and nobody there seems to care. So we're looking to move now, since it's clear Heroku has pretty much just given up at this point.

Re: Why companies move off Heroku (besides the cost)

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As someone that was there at Heroku after the acquisition, I don't think you can state that since the acquisition it's been consistently downhill. There isn't much debate that things have stagnated in the last 5-7 years which is a longer story on why probably. Some examples of innovation that happened and were launched after the acquisition: buildpacks (at the time of acquisition Heroku was still Ruby only), Heroku P…

https://render.com is my favorite in this space

Re: Why companies move off Heroku (besides the cost)

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Alternatives to Heroku besides Porter?

Pretty different approach, but with many application architectures today you can move beyond "hosting" into pure serverless with a stack like Vercel + Convex (https://convex.dev)

In the news today: https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrickcai/2022/04/27/convex-se...

(disclosure: Convex co-founder)

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