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Report: 90% of nurses considering leaving the profession in the next year
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#13Hard profession but one of the last things to be automated imo, guaranteed income for next 30-40 years. Don't think you can say the same about certain types of doctors for instance.
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#14The market will surely adjust, by killing off people who can no longer afford nursing.
Re: Report: 90% of nurses considering leaving the profession in the next year
#15U.S. nursing salaries relative to average U.S. wages are above the OECD average: https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/sites/health_glance-2017-58-en... So pay isn't the problem. The U.S. is also above the OECD average for the number of nurses per 1000 population: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/334515420/figure/fi... So staffing isn't the problem either. The U.S. is below the OECD average for the number of doctors…
>So staffing isn't the problem either.
You don't have enough data to determine that as you are assuming that the staffing levels should be the same between countries when due to things like a huge push to increase profits, more paperwork, and other such things they can be drastically different.
Re: Report: 90% of nurses considering leaving the profession in the next year
#16Most people work for money so I would take all this with a grain of salt. If you are a RN what are you going to do if not nursing? The same applies to all fields including Physicians.
Re: Report: 90% of nurses considering leaving the profession in the next year
#17While it's anecdote, every single peer in bedside medical care I know without exception has either left the field, or has immediate plans to as soon as student loan debt is repaid. The few older medical professionals in my family are simply sticking out the last few years until they can retire early.
This was generally the case prior to pandemic due to how poor the work environment has become, but the pandemic seems to have broken the few remaining folks who still had hopes and dreams.
How doctors of all professions lost their professional agency to do-nothing administrators within a generation is quite puzzling and a bit terrifying to me.
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#18A family friend was talking to a doctor who was considering quitting. The reason why, at least for that doctor, wasn't really the stress from patients. It was all the damned paperwork and the stress that created.
I've known a few nurses, doctors, and PTs who expressed exactly this sentiment. It's such a stupid problem, too. There's no reason they should have such an onerous burden, and yet they all do.
One of the PTs I know spent at least as much time filling out paperwork as he did with patients. This was partly due to the volume of paperwork required by govt / insurance / lawyers / whatever, and partly due to absolutely awful software.
Re: Report: 90% of nurses considering leaving the profession in the next year
#19A family friend was talking to a doctor who was considering quitting. The reason why, at least for that doctor, wasn't really the stress from patients. It was all the damned paperwork and the stress that created.
My primary care doctor dropped me a few years back. He said his solo practice couldn't handle the paperwork of having so many patients so he went to just seeing patients for his specialty. He was admittedly older and had never particularly embraced computers and so forth. (And then my new PCP retired during the pandemic.)
Isn’t there any software for solo practices out there?
Re: Report: 90% of nurses considering leaving the profession in the next year
#20Most people work for money so I would take all this with a grain of salt. If you are a RN what are you going to do if not nursing? The same applies to all fields including Physicians.
> If you are a RN what are you going to do if not nursing?
You can do almost any job with almost any degree.