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Shanghai video overwhelms Chinese censor, gets 400M views

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I wonder whether the Shanghai situation will be what finally catalyzes real political reform. The people have put up with a lot from this regime over the years. Shanghai has historically been where anti-government movements get going. It will be interesting to see what transpires over the next few months.

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Re: Shanghai video overwhelms Chinese censor, gets 400M views

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Why isn't this being called a humanitarian crisis by our illustrious Western leaders?

Some in the west certainly have labelled it that. There's quite a number of humanitarian crises going on at the moment, as have been over the past few years (and basically forever). Western leaders don't get up in the morning and recite lists of them.

Re: Shanghai video overwhelms Chinese censor, gets 400M views

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I wonder whether the Shanghai situation will be what finally catalyzes real political reform. The people have put up with a lot from this regime over the years. Shanghai has historically been where anti-government movements get going. It will be interesting to see what transpires over the next few months.

These same draconian measures were how China supposedly weathered the initial spread of COVID well if those reports are to be believed, and even if you don't it's the party line. Given that, it would seem more likely that they'll double down since "this worked before." Along these same lines, crushing dissenters is also something the government has much experience with, and has also "worked before" in the worst ways.…

Yeah... but those lockdowns weren't in "first-tier" cities, it was lockdowns of dirty provincials.

If the elites in Beijing are locked in their apartments for months on end, and start to go hungry... idk. I'm not saying there's going to be some fantastical democratic reform, but a coup that replaces Xi seems plausible.

Re: Shanghai video overwhelms Chinese censor, gets 400M views

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How did this article get the view "behind the curtain"? Conference calls of the Beijing network surveillance office are hardly public knowledge? Together with the imprecise writing ("All the alerts went red") the articles claims are hard to take at face value.

Re: Shanghai video overwhelms Chinese censor, gets 400M views

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The secret police apparently got to the author of the video:

- "“However, I don’t wish this video to be distributed in the directions I don’t want,” he added. “I hope everyone stops sharing, or please asking people you know to stop sharing.”"

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/22/sound-of-april...

Re: Shanghai video overwhelms Chinese censor, gets 400M views

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One aspect of this that i'm hoping a more informed person can comment on:

Are the news reports of anger by shanghai residents directed against the national or provincial(?) government? From what I previously read Shanghai was discussed as a factional stronghold not wholly subservient to the national government (to Xi). That being the case i've been curious if these draconian measures have been imposed from the national level meant to weaken that faction's provincial support?

Given the numbers of deaths being so low and not having read about overwhelmed hospitals, these almost seem like own-goals by the chinese government? But a factional dispute would explain it, in my mind. Does anyone have any better data?

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