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Google doesn't know what the algorithm is anymore. The whole site is a black box.
I doubt it, they should know what the various algorithms are, especially the most important ones that drive most of the ranking. But their competitive advantage would be on the line.
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#13It will be fun to see Google's algorithm for ranking search results.
"Here's 100PiB of unlabeled neural net weights. Knock yourselves out."
You need to give the user an explanation on why you blocked his account, but if Google is kind enough to add on top the secret neural network then some people would be happy to have a look at it and find even more garbage in it.
Re: Google, Meta, others will have to explain algorithms under new EU legislation
#14If you read the article they're asking for more than explaining algorithms. Overall they want the the tech providers to be responsible. Explaining algorithms could, in theory, give away a competitive advantage. However fairness to users seems to be a priority in this decision.
Things like "fairness" aren't defined in the legislation and will be determined in smoke filled rooms by shadowy moneyed interests. Ordinary users will get censored. By the courts, by unelected regulators, and by Big Tech AI zealously nuking content to avoid arbitrary fines. It's content ID on steroids.
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Things like "fairness" aren't defined in the legislation and will be determined in smoke filled rooms by shadowy moneyed interests. Ordinary users will get censored. By the courts, by unelected regulators, and by Big Tech AI zealously nuking content to avoid arbitrary fines. It's content ID on steroids.
I agree that it could get out of hand. We'll have to wait and see how it turns out. Since this is an EU law I wonder if it applies to content hosted on EU servers only, or any content that shows up in their users' results.
I suspect that Google and Facebook will not offer country specific blocklists like they do for Nazi content in Germany. If Hungary bans LGBTQIA content, it'll disappear in France. Europe can then have an argument about how they "really really not really" believe in free speech.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Here's 100PiB of unlabeled neural net weights. Knock yourselves out."
They want to know how the algorithms work, not the data itself.
-- Linus Torvalds
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Here's 100PiB of unlabeled neural net weights. Knock yourselves out."
>"Here's 100PiB of unlabeled neural net weights. Knock yourselves out." You need to give the user an explanation on why you blocked his account, but if Google is kind enough to add on top the secret neural network then some people would be happy to have a look at it and find even more garbage in it.
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I agree that it could get out of hand. We'll have to wait and see how it turns out. Since this is an EU law I wonder if it applies to content hosted on EU servers only, or any content that shows up in their users' results.
Platforms are responsible for everything shown to a user inside the EU. I suspect that Google and Facebook will not offer country specific blocklists like they do for Nazi content in Germany. If Hungary bans LGBTQIA content, it'll disappear in France. Europe can then have an argument about how they "really really not really" believe in free speech.