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A Census of Minecraft Servers

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Re: A Census of Minecraft Servers

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The most interesting part of this to me was the list of top mods by popularity. But when I looked a lot of them seemed for much older Minecraft versions or for old versions of the mods. For instance "Pam's HarvestCraft" is mentioned but that's been deprecated in favor of a HarvestCraft 2. Is that just a quirk of how the mod names are reported and folks are really running newer stuff? Are older modded servers still po…

Many people still run on older modded versions. To use the example you gave, HarvestCraft 2's CurseForge page[0] says: > Welcome to the brand new HarvestCraft for 1.14.4 and beyond! Please read carefully as this is NOT a update of Pam's HarvestCraft but a re-boot. 1.14.4 is 3 years old, but many (many!) servers are still running on 1.12 or older versions if doing modded. There simply isn't an incentive for many mod o…

> There simply isn't an incentive for many mod owners to update their mods to the latest version

There is quite a strong incentive. What there is not, is means — Forge and Minecraft have both changed dramatically between versions, to the point that many mod developers throw their hands up in the air and rewrite the mod entirely. For something complex enough that that isn't an option, for instance Electrical Age, it's easy to remain stuck on an older version forever.

There's no documentation, and the API owners often assume that forcing a complete rewrite of major parts of the mod is fine. It's really not.

Re: A Census of Minecraft Servers

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Really good post. It's amazing how fast you can scan all of IPv4. I also needed tune SQLite recently for an event logging server, and "PRAGMA journal_mode=WAL" helped a lot.

> Really good post. It's amazing how fast you can scan all of IPv4. If you're just scanning one port, which the author seems to have done, you can probably do it in some minute or two, unless you wanna play nice and lower the rate of sending packets. Otherwise if you wanna scan full IPv4 + all ports, it'll take a couple of minutes at least. Masscan with the right hardware seems to be able to do it in five minutes or…

speaking of massscan, how about those dang expanse palo alto networks guys.

> YES IM STILL SITTING IN THE SAME SPOT I WAS THE LAST TIME YOU SCANNED ME AN HOUR AGO.

Re: A Census of Minecraft Servers

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I'm surprised that the majority of servers are running an unmodified version of the server software. I had expected the majority of servers to be running a Bukkit-compatible modification at this point.

Re: A Census of Minecraft Servers

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I’m kind of amazed that you can still do massive scans like this and not face some bad consequences like getting blocked somewhere, or having your hosting provider get very annoyed at you.

Re: A Census of Minecraft Servers

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The most interesting part of this to me was the list of top mods by popularity. But when I looked a lot of them seemed for much older Minecraft versions or for old versions of the mods. For instance "Pam's HarvestCraft" is mentioned but that's been deprecated in favor of a HarvestCraft 2. Is that just a quirk of how the mod names are reported and folks are really running newer stuff? Are older modded servers still po…

Many people still run on older modded versions. To use the example you gave, HarvestCraft 2's CurseForge page[0] says: > Welcome to the brand new HarvestCraft for 1.14.4 and beyond! Please read carefully as this is NOT a update of Pam's HarvestCraft but a re-boot. 1.14.4 is 3 years old, but many (many!) servers are still running on 1.12 or older versions if doing modded. There simply isn't an incentive for many mod o…

Additionally, as far as I know, after 1.12, the development of minecraft paced up and a lot of internals of minecraft changed. This turns the update of mods past 1.12 into a complete rewrite most of the times, which has burned out quite a few authors.

Re: A Census of Minecraft Servers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many people still run on older modded versions. To use the example you gave, HarvestCraft 2's CurseForge page[0] says: > Welcome to the brand new HarvestCraft for 1.14.4 and beyond! Please read carefully as this is NOT a update of Pam's HarvestCraft but a re-boot. 1.14.4 is 3 years old, but many (many!) servers are still running on 1.12 or older versions if doing modded. There simply isn't an incentive for many mod o…

> There simply isn't an incentive for many mod owners to update their mods to the latest version There is quite a strong incentive. What there is not, is means — Forge and Minecraft have both changed dramatically between versions, to the point that many mod developers throw their hands up in the air and rewrite the mod entirely. For something complex enough that that isn't an option, for instance Electrical Age, it's…

Some mods are also forever stuck at a given version as the source isn’t open and the mod author doesn’t want to port, is missing, or has died.

Thaumcraft 4 is a big example.

Re: A Census of Minecraft Servers

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post #16

I’m kind of amazed that you can still do massive scans like this and not face some bad consequences like getting blocked somewhere, or having your hosting provider get very annoyed at you.

1 packet going out to 4 billion hosts probably doesn't even matter next to a few 4K video streams.

I expect if author had launched it through CGNAT, someone wouldn't have been pleased. (Correct me if I'm wrong)

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