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Re: Pronounce GIF · the Correct Way, Without Question

#12
Moderators: I don't think this should be flagged.

Also I will keep saying "hard G" until I drop dead!!

That said, I'm actually curious about this one:

> For the Lip-Readers and Hearing Impaired

Is there any basis to this particular claim? Are there other words in English that are best avoided for the sake of lip readers?

Re: Pronounce GIF · the Correct Way, Without Question

#13
post #6
post #2

As soon as someone wants to take a hard stance on it it makes me want to switch. I don't know why. I typically said Jiff (like the PB) but with this site's attitude I'm going to start saying GIFT (with no T) again.

Similarly, when someone wants to take the opposite stance of a well reasoned stance for reasons unrelated to the stance itself (feelings, etc.), I tend to want to take the stance of the original to counter the person taking the opposite stance. I'm going to start staying GIF (like JIF) again.

Now I don’t know what to do, thanks.

Re: Pronounce GIF · the Correct Way, Without Question

#14
I've actually never heard it pronounced "Jiff" in conversation. Ever. I'm not going to categorically claim that people don't do it, because anecdote isn't evidence, but I've only ever heard the word "jiff" in the context of an Internet debate I'm increasingly believing is made up.

EDIT: Additionally, I've never heard anyone say po-tah-to or toe-mah-to outside of the song. Where does this urge come from?

Re: Pronounce GIF · the Correct Way, Without Question

#15
I agree with this page about GIF. However, I disagree about PNG. The creators say it's pronounced like ping, but I find that to be ridiculous because: The acronym contains no vowels, there is no letter I in Portable or Network, it confuses with the useful network utility named ping, and many many other acronyms are simply pronounced by spelling out their letters. Hence for me, PNG is P-N-G.

Re: Pronounce GIF · the Correct Way, Without Question

#16
I'm confused by the "Front Vowels" argument, since it doesn't seem to hold particularly well for ⟨ɪ⟩ (the "i" in gif).

I took a look at onelook for all "gi*" words, sorted by commonness [1]. Out of the first 30 words I count using the ⟨ɪ⟩ sound, I see:

- 19 with a Hard G (gift, gig, gill, gilt, gigabyte, give, gibbous, gild, git, giggle, gingham, ginkgo, giddy, gimlet, gibbon, gifted, gimp, gilding, gimmick)

- 11 with a Soft G (ginger, gin, gingivitis, ginseng, gist, giraffe, gibbet, gib, gibberish, giblets, gingerly)

This isn't an argument one way or another, but it seems to discount the entire first argument. It seems that the author is performing a bit of a sleight of hand by focusing on the entire class of "front vowels," instead of the specifics of the ⟨ɪ⟩ sound, because otherwise the numbers wouldn't work out nearly as well. Also, front and back vowels aren't nearly as simple as "I, E, Y = front" and "A, O, U = non-front. ⟨a⟩, the a in "hat" is a front vowel, for instance.[2] And you'll never find a soft g before ⟨a⟩.

1. https://onelook.com/?w=gi*&ssbp=1

2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_front_unrounded_vowel

Re: Pronounce GIF · the Correct Way, Without Question

#17
post #15

I agree with this page about GIF. However, I disagree about PNG. The creators say it's pronounced like ping, but I find that to be ridiculous because: The acronym contains no vowels, there is no letter I in Portable or Network, it confuses with the useful network utility named ping, and many many other acronyms are simply pronounced by spelling out their letters. Hence for me, PNG is P-N-G.

> is no letter I in Portable or Network

So it should be "pong".

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