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Ask HN: Have you ever switched cloud?

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Re: Ask HN: Have you ever switched cloud?

#11

From OVH to AWS. 30% TCO reduction. This was before the fire.

I’m really curious how this math adds up given how inexpensive OVH is.

Other people in this exact thread are saying they experienced an 80% cost reduction by moving from AWS to OVH.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30943058

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever switched cloud?

#13
I have. I was working for a company that had its own data centers, but we were running out of space and time to add more. We were already using Rackspace as a managed hosting provider (we didn't want to manage our own infrastructure), so we decided to move from our data center to Rackspace's data center.

The difference in terms of services was negligible, because they all offered almost identical services. But we did it because:

* We were looking for someone to manage the hardware and infrastructure for us.

* Rackspace's managed hardware offered higher availability than what we were able to achieve on our own.

* We had a relationship with Rackspace and they understood our needs, so we felt comfortable switching over entirely.

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever switched cloud?

#14
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Yes, switched from AWS to Google to Azure. Don't switch to Azure unless your employer forces you, you will regret it. Google is great on a technical level though, especially if you do things with Kubernetes.

> Don't switch to Azure unless your employer forces you, you will regret it.

Can you give any details? Pricing, reliability, weird quirks you have to program around, ...?

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever switched cloud?

#15
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Switched from GCP to my own server hardware. After doing the math it came out that it would pay for itself in less than a year. Depending on individual usecase, cloud can be prohibitively expensive and running a server for a small business really isn't nearly as hard as they'd have you believe

Yes, but what about the million new customers you're going to get next week?

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever switched cloud?

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post #14
post #5

Yes, switched from AWS to Google to Azure. Don't switch to Azure unless your employer forces you, you will regret it. Google is great on a technical level though, especially if you do things with Kubernetes.

> Don't switch to Azure unless your employer forces you, you will regret it. Can you give any details? Pricing, reliability, weird quirks you have to program around, ...?

Many operations are INCREDIBLY slow. Creating a VM. Mounting a disk to a VM. All take easily 10-30x longer than I'm used to with other clouds. This is especially annoying with Kubernetes as it likes to move disks between VMs which... takes a while on Azure.

Many, many, backwards incompatible changes in their Kubernetes platform. I've had to recreate clusters about twice a year so far. Lately it's been better since they finally got node pools working (about 2 years after all of their competitors).

They can't get their network stable. Things like `kubectl port-forward` or `kubectl logs` hang after 4-30 minutes of inactivity (i.e. the tunnel is open but no packets actively being sent) which, according to Azure, is "working as expected". This makes the tooling utterly unusable. It has to do with the way Azure's load balancers deal with idle TCP connections.

Also, their support engineers are unwilling to help you unless you run Windows. They always insist on remoting into your machine using some Windows utility, even though the issue is with their cloud instead of my machine.

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever switched cloud?

#17
Doing it right now. Entire company is migrating from AWS to Azure for reasons I can't discuss, and I'm currently tasked with this migration in the team I am in.

Honestly? It's quite fun. Despite considering myself more of a programmer than devops, I really like the devops stuff - as long as I'm doing it as part of a team and I know the domain and the code - and not being that general devops guy who gets dropped into project, does devops for them and gets pulled into another one to do the same.

Working out all those little details of switching from AWS to Azure is fun and enjoyable and I also feel like I'm doing something meaningful and impactful. Luckily there's not much vendor-locking as most of the stuff lives in k8s - otheriwse it would be much trickier.

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever switched cloud?

#18

Switched from Amazon to Google because I hate Amazon more than Google. Feature-wise, I'm just as happy. However, I trust Google more, but that probably boils to my hatred again. :)

I've done the same just with a different provider. And I see a trend, people go for the lesser evil out of the ones available.

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever switched cloud?

#19
Yeah, but it was only for a side-project, so I only had a single VM to migrate.

I went from AWS (cost ~£25/mo) to Microsoft Azure DE because I didn't want any user data to be subject to search by US law enforcement/national security. I thought the bill would be about the same, but it more than quadrupled almost overnight even though traffic levels, etc., were the same (i.e., practically non-existent).

What was happening was Azure was absolutely shafting me on bandwidth, even with Cloudflare in the mix (CF really doesn't help unless you're getting at a decent amount of traffic).

In the end I moved to a dedicated server with OVH that was far more powerful and doesn't have the concerns around bandwidth charges (unless I start using a truly silly amount of bandwidth, of course).

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever switched cloud?

#20

Yeah, but it was only for a side-project, so I only had a single VM to migrate. I went from AWS (cost ~£25/mo) to Microsoft Azure DE because I didn't want any user data to be subject to search by US law enforcement/national security. I thought the bill would be about the same, but it more than quadrupled almost overnight even though traffic levels, etc., were the same (i.e., practically non-existent). What was happen…

Oh god quadrupled from £25/month for a small low traffic project as you have described sounds like daytime robbery!
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