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Twitter is using its embedded JavaScript to hide tweets that have been deleted

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Re: Twitter is using its embedded JavaScript to hide tweets that have been deleted

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Post by TobyTheDog123 »

im3w1l wrote: post #6
car_analogy wrote: post #2

How long until people realize sites like Twitter are actively hostile, and embedding their scripts is equivalent to letting the Trojan horse through your gates?

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Twitter is making a privacy tradeoff by removing content from my website in the case where it doesn’t have anything to enhance the content with?

That sure seems hostile.

Re: Twitter is using its embedded JavaScript to hide tweets that have been deleted

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Post by btown »

TobyTheDog123 wrote: post #11
im3w1l wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Twitter is making a privacy tradeoff by removing content from my website in the case where it doesn’t have anything to enhance the content with? That sure seems hostile.

Consider it from the context of a "right to be forgotten" though. Setting aside whether that should be a legal right, there's certainly some kind of argument that if the right-to-be-forgotten is at some level a moral good, then technologies that assist in enforcing that right have at least some level of moral justification in doing so. Does that override the rights of a website operator to expect that their tools will not erase their content? Perhaps, perhaps not - but it is indeed a tradeoff.

Re: Twitter is using its embedded JavaScript to hide tweets that have been deleted

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Post by dotancohen »

im3w1l wrote: post #6
car_analogy wrote: post #2

How long until people realize sites like Twitter are actively hostile, and embedding their scripts is equivalent to letting the Trojan horse through your gates?

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The privacy tradeoff is not Twitter's to make. The content was copied - while still available - and placed on another website. Twitter's responsibility is to serve or not serve content. If it cannot serve the content requested, for instance because that content was deleted, then they should not continue to alter the non-Twitter webpage.

Of course, the real problem is that the site administrator is allowing Twitter to run arbitrary code on their website. I have much to say on that topic, alas, it is the choir reading HN and they don't need me to preach.

Re: Twitter is using its embedded JavaScript to hide tweets that have been deleted

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Post by tofuahdude »

You don't need to use Twitter's JS to show Tweets. If you choose to use their system, you're subject to their rules. If you don't like their rules, don't use their stuff.

Calling it "altering the public record" is a little hyperbolic imo. If you want to act as a repository for the public record, you better use your own system. Twitter is under no obligation to retain this kind of stuff on your behalf.

I'm not trying to say that this is right or wrong, just that these are the facts of the matter when you engage with a company's code and terms of service.

Re: Twitter is using its embedded JavaScript to hide tweets that have been deleted

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Post by ranguna »

db48x wrote: post #4
slater wrote: post #3

FYI if you block their JS on third-party sites, it works fine: https://i.imgur.com/cb5Lyd5.png

It’s not even that twitter is hostile; allowing any third–party javascript onto your website is a mistake.

Laughs in node_modules

Re: Twitter is using its embedded JavaScript to hide tweets that have been deleted

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Post by krige »

joelhaasnoot wrote: post #15
iepathos wrote: post #14

The real problem imo is twitter allowing people to delete their tweets at all. They need a no takesy backsies policy.

If only they had an edit button...

I can only predict how much worse will the twitter get now that people will be able to edit whatever dumb shit they write in order to avoid backlash and retcon events.
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