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Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok

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Post by 0des » Wed, Mar 30, 2022, 12:32 PM UTC

tomatowurst wrote: post #3

At what point does: - having Facebook/Meta experience on your resume starts hurting you against others who don't - selling your company to Facebook/Meta or product on it hurts your brand and perceived to be immoral Is Facebook/Meta the Tobacco company of our generation? The harmful effects of smoking were covered up for almost a century, much as the impact of mass remote dopamine manipulation is not as prolific.

I look at it less like smoking and more like obesity because people know its bad, but will foam at the mouth if someone dares address it.

Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok

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Post by 0des » Wed, Mar 30, 2022, 12:32 PM UTC

account-5 wrote: post #4

TL;DR: Company a threat to American children pays a company to accuse another company that's a threat to American children of being a threat to American children.

Its a negative for everyone, no nationality or age required

Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok

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Post by SilasX » Wed, Mar 30, 2022, 12:35 PM UTC

sudden_dystopia wrote: post #5

They should have paid more. Perhaps they could have been useful for once.

“Can you believe these jackals obfuscated the data that would have told us our advertising was ineffective?!”

Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok

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Post by throwuxiytayq » Wed, Mar 30, 2022, 12:36 PM UTC

tomatowurst wrote: post #3

At what point does: - having Facebook/Meta experience on your resume starts hurting you against others who don't - selling your company to Facebook/Meta or product on it hurts your brand and perceived to be immoral Is Facebook/Meta the Tobacco company of our generation? The harmful effects of smoking were covered up for almost a century, much as the impact of mass remote dopamine manipulation is not as prolific.

I, for one, won't touch anything with Zuck's fingerprints on it. Oculus is dead to me and many other game developers.

Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok

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Post by swayvil » Wed, Mar 30, 2022, 12:41 PM UTC

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Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok

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Post by crate_barre » Wed, Mar 30, 2022, 12:41 PM UTC

tomatowurst wrote: post #3

At what point does: - having Facebook/Meta experience on your resume starts hurting you against others who don't - selling your company to Facebook/Meta or product on it hurts your brand and perceived to be immoral Is Facebook/Meta the Tobacco company of our generation? The harmful effects of smoking were covered up for almost a century, much as the impact of mass remote dopamine manipulation is not as prolific.

At no point. You’ll only hear the opposite from a small cohort that can hop around faangs. There’s plenty of people working in all kinds of industries that overall suck for humanity.

Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok

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Post by SpicyLemonZest » Wed, Mar 30, 2022, 12:42 PM UTC

croon wrote: post #10

zerop wrote: post #7

If there is anything happening around you which influences, it is staged and driven by someone.

What influenced you to believe that?

I was skeptical for precisely that reason, so despite the fact that it isn't a secret (see for example https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/checks-balanc...) I didn't believe it until I saw the sausage getting made. Obviously I understand why you might not trust some random guy on this, but I've personally seen a billion dollar company where an outright majority of news coverage originated with its PR team, and nobody involved found this atypical or strange.

Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok

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Post by micromacrofoot » Wed, Mar 30, 2022, 12:44 PM UTC

tomatowurst wrote: post #3

At what point does: - having Facebook/Meta experience on your resume starts hurting you against others who don't - selling your company to Facebook/Meta or product on it hurts your brand and perceived to be immoral Is Facebook/Meta the Tobacco company of our generation? The harmful effects of smoking were covered up for almost a century, much as the impact of mass remote dopamine manipulation is not as prolific.

Good luck getting anyone to do anything about it though, tobacco was an easy target because it causes cancer... Americans are much better at solving medical problems than mental health problems.

Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok

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Post by thenerdhead » Wed, Mar 30, 2022, 12:44 PM UTC

Persuasive tech company accuses persuasive tech company that its tech is too persuasive.

Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok

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Post by jka » Wed, Mar 30, 2022, 12:50 PM UTC

0des wrote: post #11

tomatowurst wrote: post #3

At what point does: - having Facebook/Meta experience on your resume starts hurting you against others who don't - selling your company to Facebook/Meta or product on it hurts your brand and perceived to be immoral Is Facebook/Meta the Tobacco company of our generation? The harmful effects of smoking were covered up for almost a century, much as the impact of mass remote dopamine manipulation is not as prolific.

I look at it less like smoking and more like obesity because people know its bad, but will foam at the mouth if someone dares address it.

There were vocal complaints about the introduction of indoor smoking bans in the UK and Ireland before they were enacted; in practice the vast majority of people seemed happier afterwards.

Part of the playbook of any addiction-based industry is to encourage outrage at the prospect of the product being restricted; it builds their moat and delays the resolution of the problem (allowing their revenue streams to continue for longer).