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Mystery GPS Tracker on a Supporter’s Car

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Re: Mystery GPS Tracker on a Supporter’s Car

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Wow, didn’t know EFF went so deep on investigations like this. Top notch!

This is not really deep, TBH. This is 5-6 minutes of work for someone who does this habitually. They didn't even dump the firmware of the PIC running in there to share it for some fun RE.

You should reach out and give them some pointers for next time.

Re: Mystery GPS Tracker on a Supporter’s Car

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not really deep, TBH. This is 5-6 minutes of work for someone who does this habitually. They didn't even dump the firmware of the PIC running in there to share it for some fun RE.

The reporter clearly does not do this habitually, as it took them several (frustrating, from the sound of it) days to figure out what they did. Sounds like it was in large part a learning experience for them.

I mean, the author even stated clearly that it was a great learning experience and that the EFF couldn't do this for everything. So all of this discussion is somewhat redundant

Re: Mystery GPS Tracker on a Supporter’s Car

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Wow, didn’t know EFF went so deep on investigations like this. Top notch!

This is not really deep, TBH. This is 5-6 minutes of work for someone who does this habitually. They didn't even dump the firmware of the PIC running in there to share it for some fun RE.

Gotta agree with you there. "Connect to the UART, remember UART requires a ground, throw some AT commands at it, give up, and ask the company about a serial number" hardly seems like a deep dive.

Re: Mystery GPS Tracker on a Supporter’s Car

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I had a mystery tracker installed in a car I purchased as well: https://fccid.io/2AEB4AMV01/User-Manual/Users-Manual-3928375

The dealer even added a $250 fee to "remove" this device, but I found it was still installed, so I think I ended up footing the bill for the device itself.

The device is ostensibly to protect inventory from loss, but it seems like they are incentivizing dealers to leave these in cars to capture location data, for whatever reason.

Re: Mystery GPS Tracker on a Supporter’s Car

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not really deep, TBH. This is 5-6 minutes of work for someone who does this habitually. They didn't even dump the firmware of the PIC running in there to share it for some fun RE.

You should reach out and give them some pointers for next time.

@eff could use a link to this OP.

Re: Mystery GPS Tracker on a Supporter’s Car

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I had a mystery tracker installed in a car I purchased as well: https://fccid.io/2AEB4AMV01/User-Manual/Users-Manual-3928375 The dealer even added a $250 fee to "remove" this device, but I found it was still installed, so I think I ended up footing the bill for the device itself. The device is ostensibly to protect inventory from loss, but it seems like they are incentivizing dealers to leave these in cars to capture…

Is that legal? Its one thing to have a tracker installed and bury the notification in the terms and conditions, it's another entirely to charge someone to remove the tracker and then track them surreptitiously with it. At very least I feel like they owe you $250 for services not rendered.

Re: Mystery GPS Tracker on a Supporter’s Car

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Over here in the EU any cellular device should contain a SIM card which must be registered to someone or some company, therefore it can be used to track the owner; is that different in the US? The article doesn't mention any SIM card present. If I discovered such a tracking device in my car I'd immediately look for the card, get its number and find the owner. Also, it would be nice to fool the GPS through a jammer th…

>Over here in the EU any cellular device should contain a SIM card which must be registered to someone or some company...

This isn't true for all of the EU. For example, in the Netherlands, you can buy and activate a prepaid SIM without any identification requirements. This prepaid SIM, once activated in the Netherlands, can then be used in other parts of the EU without subsequent registration.

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