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Re: Steve Jobs didn’t

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I HATED this list. A few rebuttals to point out why... Steve Jobs did not create products he created an organization. No. He was partially responsible for the creation. He sat in on design meetings and offered input and feedback. Plus he vetoed bad idea (just as important) Steve Jobs did not wrest market share from competitors he created new markets: Tell that to Creative Labs and Microsoft. Creative labs had an MP3…

You're so close to understanding this essay, and yet I fear you're a thousand miles away.

I'm going to kill the poetry by trying to explain it, but try translating each phrase like this: When you read:

"Steve Jobs did not [do X], he [did Y]."

read it as:

"It's not so much that Steve Jobs did [legendary thing X], as that he did [apparently simple thing Y, and did you notice that by doing so he just happened to accomplish X as a side effect?]"

The author agrees with you.

(Note, by the way, that my rephrasing is absolutely bloated with weasel words that diminish its impact. That's why the original author wrote the way he did, at the expense of losing the literalists in the audience.)

Re: Steve Jobs didn’t

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Steve Jobs also did not share the credit. Like Elizabeth Warren said, "Nobody ever made a million dollars by themself."

What? He shared credit all the time. Go watch an old keynote, it was never "Here's what I built" it's always "Here's what we built".

Re: Steve Jobs didn’t

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I read this a bit differently than saying that anyone can do what Steve Jobs did.

To speak plainly, to be patient and put the dots together, to lead without charisma are all incredibly difficult things to do. It really does take genius and only the extraordinary amongst us can do it.

If you have a natural, god-given charisma, its very easy to be a leader. No accomplishment there. But you would lead for what purpose?

If you have some uncanny ability to predict the future as a whole, without error, you would be popular for your predictions but you wouldn't build much of anything, because building great things requires trial and error.

If you were merely a design expert, you'd make nice looking things, but you wouldn't be able to scale it, compared to the non-designer that sees the greatness in other designers.

Being foolish and curious really trumps all other skills, but how many people can truly endure being foolish and curious?

Re: Steve Jobs didn’t

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post #13

I read this a bit differently than saying that anyone can do what Steve Jobs did. To speak plainly, to be patient and put the dots together, to lead without charisma are all incredibly difficult things to do. It really does take genius and only the extraordinary amongst us can do it. If you have a natural, god-given charisma, its very easy to be a leader. No accomplishment there. But you would lead for what purpose?…

how many people can truly endure being foolish and curious?

The people who embrace curiosity and don't dwell too much on their foolishness.

Re: Steve Jobs didn’t

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I thought the title of this is annoying linkbait, so here's the "article" in its entirety:

Steve Jobs did not create products. He created an organization that predictably and reliably created emotionally resonant products.

Steve Jobs did not make movies. He made a company that predictably and reliably made blockbusters.

Steve Jobs did not wrest market share from competitors. He created new markets that attracted and sustained competitors.

Steve Jobs did not design anything. He gave others the freedom to think about what jobs products are hired to do.

Steve Jobs did not re-engineer processes. He brought engineering processes to works of creativity and the creative process to engineering.

Steve Jobs did not develop new management theories. He showed by example that innovation can be managed.

Steve Jobs was not a visionary. He put the dots together and saw where they led.

Steve Jobs was not a futurist. He just built the future one piece at a time.

Steve Jobs did not distort reality. He spoke what he believed would become reality at a time when those beliefs seemed far fetched.

Steve Jobs was not charismatic. He spoke from the heart compelling others to follow him.

Steve Jobs was not a gifted orator. He spoke plainly.

Steve Jobs was not a magician. He practiced, a lot.

He had taste.

He was curious.

He was patient.

He was foolish.

He was hungry.

These things many others can do. Maybe you can.

Re: Steve Jobs didn’t

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I HATED this list. A few rebuttals to point out why... Steve Jobs did not create products he created an organization. No. He was partially responsible for the creation. He sat in on design meetings and offered input and feedback. Plus he vetoed bad idea (just as important) Steve Jobs did not wrest market share from competitors he created new markets: Tell that to Creative Labs and Microsoft. Creative labs had an MP3…

I agree with you. In fact, the comments contradict one another.

If they did their homework, they would know Jobs holds many design patents.

and this one is funny...

"Steve Jobs was not a visionary. He put the dots together and saw where they led."

vs.

"He created an organization that predictably and reliably created emotionally resonant products."

" He made a company that predictably and reliably made blockbusters."

"He created new markets that attracted and sustained competitors."

" He gave others the freedom to think about what jobs products are hired to do."

"He brought engineering processes to works of creativity and the creative process to engineering."

I'm not sure how you "make a company" and "create new markets" without being a visionary.

All this hype about a geek yet no one really paid attention to another fine gentleman by the name of Ralph Steinman.

I am so sick and tired of people like Jobs getting all this attention and maybe I ought to start using it as a stage to remind people that while Jobs contributions to computer science are important, we ought to give the same attention to others who are equally, if not, great contributors to science. I never knew Jobs earned a nobel prize?

Re: Steve Jobs didn’t

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My interpretation of this post is a bit different from the others that I see here.

I see this as being about cutting through all the cliches and platitudes that we tend to run into when we talk abou Steve Jobs, and pointing out the truth behind them.

"Steve Jobs was a charismatic visionary with a knack for design who created revolutionary products."

...sounds like something the press would say about Jobs doesn't it?

Re: Steve Jobs didn’t

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post #6

I HATED this list. A few rebuttals to point out why... Steve Jobs did not create products he created an organization. No. He was partially responsible for the creation. He sat in on design meetings and offered input and feedback. Plus he vetoed bad idea (just as important) Steve Jobs did not wrest market share from competitors he created new markets: Tell that to Creative Labs and Microsoft. Creative labs had an MP3…

You're so close to understanding this essay, and yet I fear you're a thousand miles away. I'm going to kill the poetry by trying to explain it, but try translating each phrase like this: When you read: "Steve Jobs did not [do X], he [did Y]." read it as: "It's not so much that Steve Jobs did [legendary thing X], as that he did [apparently simple thing Y, and did you notice that by doing so he just happened to accompl…

I find such sentences as:

>Steve Jobs was not a futurist. He just built the future one piece at a time.

to be almost hypnotically devoid of meaning and disrespectful to the reader. Why not just say what's true? A good reader can be stunned by the truth, without needing to be lead through a difficult contradiction for dramatic effect.

Re: Steve Jobs didn’t

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're so close to understanding this essay, and yet I fear you're a thousand miles away. I'm going to kill the poetry by trying to explain it, but try translating each phrase like this: When you read: "Steve Jobs did not [do X], he [did Y]." read it as: "It's not so much that Steve Jobs did [legendary thing X], as that he did [apparently simple thing Y, and did you notice that by doing so he just happened to accompl…

I find such sentences as: >Steve Jobs was not a futurist. He just built the future one piece at a time. to be almost hypnotically devoid of meaning and disrespectful to the reader. Why not just say what's true? A good reader can be stunned by the truth, without needing to be lead through a difficult contradiction for dramatic effect.

Well sure. I mean, Abe Lincoln could have shortened the Gettysburg Address to "Let's free the slaves and reunite the union", but that wouldn't have had the same impact as the speech he did give.

There's nothing wrong with presenting a difficult idea that has a more dramatic effect. Do you think Moby Dick or War and Peace are considered great due to their simple ways of communicating ideas?

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