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Forge – A Django SaaS Framework

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Re: Forge – A Django SaaS Framework

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Post by davegaeddert »

illuminated wrote: post #3

From the pricing page [0]: Is there a free trial? Unfortunately, because of the logistics of how this works, there is no free trial period. We do our best to give you an idea of what you're buying via public documentation, videos, and an overview of the repo. If you buy it and truly decide you aren't going to use it, contact us about a refund. [0]: https://www.djangoforge.dev/pricing/

Wish I could figure out how to do a free trial. I've obviously considered whether the whole thing should be free and open-source in the first place, but getting paid to work on this stuff is the best way I know to make something high quality, where good support, improvements, fixes, etc. are all expectations.

Happy to give out some discounts if people are interested in that.

Re: Forge – A Django SaaS Framework

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Post by davegaeddert »

ketzu wrote: post #10

The descriptions seem a little bit scarce for me. Like others I also wonder who's the intended audience. For 1k/year/repository I need to be quite serious with a project, but that project needs to be basically non existent (otherwise I would probably have the basis already) while also being somewhat serious. Formulating it a bit provocative: In what way is it more than an expensive cookiecutter repository? (Especiall…

> Like others I also wonder who's the intended audience.

Me too — trying to figure that out!

> but that project needs to be basically non existent while also being somewhat serious

Super interesting point. I've helped integrate it into some existing projects and it is not fun.

> In what way is it more than an expensive cookiecutter repository?

I don't disagree with this. A couple differences in my mind are support (that you're paying for, and has an incentive to be as helpful as possible) and on-going updates (a cookiecutter won't help you integrate improvements over time, as far as I know).

Pricing is totally an experiment right now, and I shot high on purpose. Suggestions?

Re: Forge – A Django SaaS Framework

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Post by davegaeddert »

ushakov wrote: post #7

you want $1000/year for a boilerplate? why would any business want this?

Might be too high — not sure yet. It is partially based off of https://bullettrain.co/pricing#now (and I know they're making that work... but there are some differences).

> why would any business want this?

An existing business building a new product? A new business getting off the ground? Don't know exactly yet.

Re: Forge – A Django SaaS Framework

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Post by silviogutierrez »

Disclaimer / shameless plug: I have an OSS project in this space, https://www.reactivated.io, and plan to do a Show HN on it tomorrow.

With that out of the way, I think having more opinionated Django frameworks is a great thing. Particularly around styling and forms.

I also think it's interesting to try to "productize" (I think there's a better word) what is often done as consulting. That is, bottling up and selling experience. So while the price may seem high, there's a ton of wisdom behind it. An experienced Django consultant is easily thousands of dollars per week.

I wish you the best!

Re: Forge – A Django SaaS Framework

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Post by vincentmarle »

davegaeddert wrote: post #12
ketzu wrote: post #10

The descriptions seem a little bit scarce for me. Like others I also wonder who's the intended audience. For 1k/year/repository I need to be quite serious with a project, but that project needs to be basically non existent (otherwise I would probably have the basis already) while also being somewhat serious. Formulating it a bit provocative: In what way is it more than an expensive cookiecutter repository? (Especiall…

> Like others I also wonder who's the intended audience. Me too — trying to figure that out! > but that project needs to be basically non existent while also being somewhat serious Super interesting point. I've helped integrate it into some existing projects and it is not fun. > In what way is it more than an expensive cookiecutter repository? I don't disagree with this. A couple differences in my mind are support (t…

The project seems really well put together but until you figure out your ideal target customer (and their needs) I would hold off on pricing it too high. Maybe offer it for free, get some learnings and as you add more value and get more clarity on your target group, you can then ramp up the price?

Re: Forge – A Django SaaS Framework

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Post by ketzu »

davegaeddert wrote: post #12
ketzu wrote: post #10

The descriptions seem a little bit scarce for me. Like others I also wonder who's the intended audience. For 1k/year/repository I need to be quite serious with a project, but that project needs to be basically non existent (otherwise I would probably have the basis already) while also being somewhat serious. Formulating it a bit provocative: In what way is it more than an expensive cookiecutter repository? (Especiall…

> Like others I also wonder who's the intended audience. Me too — trying to figure that out! > but that project needs to be basically non existent while also being somewhat serious Super interesting point. I've helped integrate it into some existing projects and it is not fun. > In what way is it more than an expensive cookiecutter repository? I don't disagree with this. A couple differences in my mind are support (t…

Thanks for the reply!

> support (that you're paying for, and has an incentive to be as helpful as possible) and on-going updates (a cookiecutter won't help you integrate improvements over time, as far as I know).

That's true, good point.

> Suggestions?

I think it highly depends on your target audience.

Re: Forge – A Django SaaS Framework

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Post by andrewmutz »

This project looks very useful. It's easy to burn through $1000 in software engineering time setting up the initial stages of a project and this looks like it does a great job of streamlining that for you.

Another thing I like about this project: I've always felt that the rails community does a better job than the django community in the out-of-the-box experience of setting up a new app. This project seems to bring some of that niceness to the django world (and would be similar to https://jumpstartrails.com/).

Re: Forge – A Django SaaS Framework

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Post by [deleted] »

silviogutierrez wrote: post #14

Disclaimer / shameless plug: I have an OSS project in this space, https://www.reactivated.io , and plan to do a Show HN on it tomorrow. With that out of the way, I think having more opinionated Django frameworks is a great thing. Particularly around styling and forms. I also think it's interesting to try to "productize" (I think there's a better word) what is often done as consulting. That is, bottling up and selling…

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Re: Forge – A Django SaaS Framework

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Post by davegaeddert »

silviogutierrez wrote: post #14

Disclaimer / shameless plug: I have an OSS project in this space, https://www.reactivated.io , and plan to do a Show HN on it tomorrow. With that out of the way, I think having more opinionated Django frameworks is a great thing. Particularly around styling and forms. I also think it's interesting to try to "productize" (I think there's a better word) what is often done as consulting. That is, bottling up and selling…

Thanks! I found Reactive somehow yesterday — haven't looked closely at it yet but I will. Always cool to see more stuff in the ecosystem. But yeah, personally I feel like there are few things the Django community could learn (or at least try) from the Laravel (and Rails) communities. I love free software, but it has downsides too! (Like the fact that I can't justify spending all my time on it.)

Re: Forge – A Django SaaS Framework

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Post by aosaigh »

ushakov wrote: post #7

you want $1000/year for a boilerplate? why would any business want this?

$1000 is potentially 6-8 hours of developer time. A well thought out boilerplate repo could easily save that time if it ticks the right boxes (I've no idea about this project in particular btw).
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