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Re: Diveintohtml5 lives

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Post by stephth »

Luyt wrote: post #5
stephth wrote: post #3

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Different from what? What do you mean? I'm super confused. A couple hours ago the two top stories were about mark pilgrim having done what looked like an info suicide. I came back here to check on that and the stories are nowhere to be seen on the first two pages of HN. What happened?

Mark is fine. See update on http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2011/10/04/searching-for-m... Previous HN threads: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3073798 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3073842

Both stories have more than 200 votes and are only a few hours old. Mark Pilgrim doing an info suicide is newsworthy and obviously a lot of people care about it, so can someone explain how and why those stories have been kicked out of the first HN pages?

Re: Diveintohtml5 lives

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Post by vibragiel »

Did anyone manage to fork Dive Into HTML5's mercurial repository at hg.diveintohtml5.org recently? I had started translating the book to Spanish and now I'm left stranded!

Re: Diveintohtml5 lives

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Post by j_col »

skrebbel wrote: post #4
stephth wrote: post #3

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Different from what? What do you mean? I'm super confused. A couple hours ago the two top stories were about mark pilgrim having done what looked like an info suicide. I came back here to check on that and the stories are nowhere to be seen on the first two pages of HN. What happened?

Looks like someone at HN stopped an attention whore from attention whoring too much. Censorship, yes, but nice censorship.

I'm sorry, but no censorship is nice in a site that is supposed to be about content getting up-voted/down-voted by a community.

Re: Diveintohtml5 lives

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Post by scorpion032 »

stephth wrote: post #8
scorpion032 wrote: post #6

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Mark pulled down his twitter account, his blog, diveintopython and diveintopython3. All of these is his own content developed in his own time, and he has every right to pull it down, if he so deems fit, whatever reasons for that. And he has. Yet, diveintohtml5 lives on. The reason for it is that, it was something he wrote in his employers time who are at least part owners of it. I hold high respect for Mark and for h…

So ... why exactly were the HN stories buried?

Although, I didn't do it, I can reason why. If Mark pulled all his content (and even nominated his own Wikipedia article for deletion citing he is not notable) because he wanted some privacy, letting all those articles on the HN frontpage would do the exact opposite to provide him more attention that he is avoiding.

Re: Diveintohtml5 lives

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Post by andrewljohnson »

stephth wrote: post #11
Luyt wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mark is fine. See update on http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2011/10/04/searching-for-m... Previous HN threads: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3073798 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3073842

Both stories have more than 200 votes and are only a few hours old. Mark Pilgrim doing an info suicide is newsworthy and obviously a lot of people care about it, so can someone explain how and why those stories have been kicked out of the first HN pages?

I imagine they got flagged to death by reasonable people, or a moderator star-chambered them.

Either way, good riddance. Mark didn't want them there, obviously, and neither did anyone except rubbernecking thrill-chasers.

It was ridiculous to think the guy was in trouble or to send the freaking police to his house. The man has friends, family, and co-workers, and the people who surfaced this story didn't so much care if he was alright (because they weren't his friends) so much as they wanted a few seconds of internet fame for being the first to notice the data wipe.

The story should have been posted as "Lookie, lookie - Mark Pilgrim disappeared from the internet!" That would have been fine.

Instead, it was the morbid internet at its worst.

Re: Diveintohtml5 lives

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Post by stephth »

andrewljohnson wrote: post #17
stephth wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Both stories have more than 200 votes and are only a few hours old. Mark Pilgrim doing an info suicide is newsworthy and obviously a lot of people care about it, so can someone explain how and why those stories have been kicked out of the first HN pages?

I imagine they got flagged to death by reasonable people, or a moderator star-chambered them. Either way, good riddance. Mark didn't want them there, obviously, and neither did anyone except rubbernecking thrill-chasers. It was ridiculous to think the guy was in trouble or to send the freaking police to his house. The man has friends, family, and co-workers, and the people who surfaced this story didn't so much care…

Mark didn't want them there, obviously, and neither did anyone except rubbernecking thrill-chasers.

Or people interested on the subject of mark pirlgrim's work going 401, or the subject of info suicide. There seems to be some kind of censorship goin on, and whether or not there's a legitimate reason for it, HN readers deserve an explanation.

Re: Diveintohtml5 lives

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Post by thaumaturgy »

andrewljohnson wrote: post #17
stephth wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Both stories have more than 200 votes and are only a few hours old. Mark Pilgrim doing an info suicide is newsworthy and obviously a lot of people care about it, so can someone explain how and why those stories have been kicked out of the first HN pages?

I imagine they got flagged to death by reasonable people, or a moderator star-chambered them. Either way, good riddance. Mark didn't want them there, obviously, and neither did anyone except rubbernecking thrill-chasers. It was ridiculous to think the guy was in trouble or to send the freaking police to his house. The man has friends, family, and co-workers, and the people who surfaced this story didn't so much care…

Not defending anyone's actions here one way or another, but, being a sort-of-internet-celebrity and suddenly removing everything associated with yourself without a comment or explanation is bound to attract some attention.
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