That is social media for you. Disinformation still existing on there despite multiple calls to remove it.
Just don't straight up believe everything you see on the internet. The 'propaganda' happens on either side.
Zelensky video deepfake
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#12I wonder who is viewing that thinking it's real? It's obviously fake and a bad fake at that.
This kind of belief doesn't survive contact with the kind of person bad fakes are targeted at. They're not stupid people, they're just people who've lived long enough to feel confident in their understanding of the world, and that understanding has at best an abstract concept of deep fakes. It only has to be more convincing than what they expect a fake to look like.
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#13I always find it interesting to watch the trickle down of news I find here on HN. I live in a very, very, very conservative part of the US. It always goes the same; see fake thing called out for being fake on HN. One week later, hear rumblings related to the fake thing in my community. One week after that, hear people openly talking about how that fake thing is true, but Google/MSM don't want you to hear about it. Su…
Try reddit, it's much faster than hacker news on these things.
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#14The head doesn't even look attached to the body. Wow.
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#15Is this really even a deepfake? It just looks like a juxtaposition.
Seems more effective than the peculiarly hokey MIT efforts recently discussed on HN.
Deepfakes, can you spot them? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30606263
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#16I always find it interesting to watch the trickle down of news I find here on HN. I live in a very, very, very conservative part of the US. It always goes the same; see fake thing called out for being fake on HN. One week later, hear rumblings related to the fake thing in my community. One week after that, hear people openly talking about how that fake thing is true, but Google/MSM don't want you to hear about it. Su…
> Information dissemination must be similar to fluid dynamics. It just has to be. If you include reactions, sure. But regular fluid dynamics very much leaves the substance intact. Water flows down a stream and is still water at the end.
I think there might be a sewage plant or two having overflow issues in the clear mountain stream of this analogy (your username is on-topic in this case).
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#17They could definitely have done a better job. It makes me think that the purpose is not to actually fool people, but to sow seeds of doubt for future genuine Ukrainian government communications. Surely it benefits Russia for people to not trust what they see online.
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#18I always find it interesting to watch the trickle down of news I find here on HN. I live in a very, very, very conservative part of the US. It always goes the same; see fake thing called out for being fake on HN. One week later, hear rumblings related to the fake thing in my community. One week after that, hear people openly talking about how that fake thing is true, but Google/MSM don't want you to hear about it. Su…
Information dissemination must be similar to fluid dynamics. It just has to be.
It’s simpler and more insidious than that. I’ll use the old Eleanor Roosevelt quote:
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people."
Most people are not that intellectual and probably spent most of their life gossiping. They wouldn’t know how to even discuss certain topics if the low hanging fruit of gossip and conspiracy wasn’t available to them to add something in a social interaction.
Take Reddit for example, some of them wouldn’t even know what to say if they couldn’t add that one immediate punch line (followed by sequential punchlines by other people). If you take this away, they will literally have no way of joining the convo.
They won’t be able to come up with an angle, ask a probing question, entertain an alternative perspective, provide analogues or metaphors, they’d simply have no voice. It’s akin to providing these people with ‘what do you think about the weather today?’ as a lifeline in casual social interaction.
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#19Interestingly Zelensky might be easier to deepfake than other world leaders because there's more footage and a wider variety of facial expressions to train on due to his acting career
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#20The quality on this is really awful. Lighting mismatch on the neck, no atmospheric effects, voice sounds robotic, very little movement and it’s unnatural. It’s not even a useful PoC. It’s more like a meme. I think if it actually got some traction in mainstream media - like Marina Ovsyannikova’s fake Twitter account which was quoted by journos, then you could call it a legitimate first.