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Putin Is Being Canceled

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#12
Where was all of this cancellation when it could have done some good - like before Putin invaded?

This is at best virtue signalling, by companies that kowtow to the communist government of China that is conducting ethnic cleansing in Tibet and East Turkistan.

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#13

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What choice do these companies really have? They are faced with a bad move and worse move, so they've picked the bad move...

The idea that western companies are pulling out of Russia as a form of virtue signalling is ridiculous. The fact is they are pulling out because they must due to sanctions and Russian counter reactions. Mcdonalds for example pulled out. Russia has suggested that it may break "trademarks" to continue to operate McDonalds independently and keep (innocent) people employed. The delusion of many westerners is the idea tha…

They are pulling out because Russian economy is going to crash and people will no longer be able to buy the products from these companies anyway. It is just not profitable for them anymore and if you can get some points for showing how socially responsible you are, is just extra.

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The idea that western companies are pulling out of Russia as a form of virtue signalling is ridiculous. The fact is they are pulling out because they must due to sanctions and Russian counter reactions. Mcdonalds for example pulled out. Russia has suggested that it may break "trademarks" to continue to operate McDonalds independently and keep (innocent) people employed. The delusion of many westerners is the idea tha…

They are pulling out because Russian economy is going to crash and people will no longer be able to buy the products from these companies anyway. It is just not profitable for them anymore and if you can get some points for showing how socially responsible you are, is just extra.

It seems this is a very American (western?) propaganda driven narrative. I wouldn’t be surprised if these sanctions in the medium term ruin the United States. China is the winner and Russia & India will also benefit. I hope not, but it seems possible.

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#15
Putin is cancelling himself.

Up until a few weeks ago he was always respected as much as possible in spite of his shortcomings.

He was right up there with any of the previous Russian or Soviet leaders who shrewdly managed to avoid anything like a mobilization of armies to invade a neighboring country the least bit reminiscent of WWII.

Now even if Ukraine is completely conquered and regardless of what becomes of Zelinskyy, there will always be some leader of Ukraininan descent who is more respectable than Putin.

Forever.

Re: Putin Is Being Canceled

#16
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are pulling out because Russian economy is going to crash and people will no longer be able to buy the products from these companies anyway. It is just not profitable for them anymore and if you can get some points for showing how socially responsible you are, is just extra.

It seems this is a very American (western?) propaganda driven narrative. I wouldn’t be surprised if these sanctions in the medium term ruin the United States. China is the winner and Russia & India will also benefit. I hope not, but it seems possible.

No, this seems wishful thinking. Russia's GDP is only 4% of EU's GDP. The sanctions will be felt all around the world but not as severely as in Russia.

Re: Putin Is Being Canceled

#17
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The idea that western companies are pulling out of Russia as a form of virtue signalling is ridiculous. The fact is they are pulling out because they must due to sanctions and Russian counter reactions. Mcdonalds for example pulled out. Russia has suggested that it may break "trademarks" to continue to operate McDonalds independently and keep (innocent) people employed. The delusion of many westerners is the idea tha…

They are pulling out because Russian economy is going to crash and people will no longer be able to buy the products from these companies anyway. It is just not profitable for them anymore and if you can get some points for showing how socially responsible you are, is just extra.

There are not leaving because the Russian economy is going to be seriously hit. Many of them would still be viable and profitable in a serious economic crisis.

There are leaving because the sanctions make it either impossible or not worthwhile to continue operating, and because they are facing huge pressure at home and are fearing that the cost of being 'cancelled' at home would be worse than the cost of closing shop in Russian.

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